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    Default What Went Wrong? (Sarging At the Mall)

    Ok guys here I am sarging at mall for practice and I just had a 20 min interaction with the hottest Venezuelan chick and failed number close!!!

    She worked at a booth selling sunglasses.. I went up genuinely interested in sunglasses.. She talks to me about 5 mins Soley about sunglasses...

    Somehow the conversation shifts and we talk about our lives what we are doing etc.. I DHV telling a story about my life ..

    We basically talked for a good 15 minutes..

    I said I had to go and pulled out my phone said nice meeting you Stacy we should talk again what's your number..

    Then she says she doesn't give out numbers to strangers and ppl u just met..
    I said that is understandable then told her the 100% perfect girl story..

    In the end I had to fight hard as hell for her just to take my number..

    I'm not sure what the hell happened I know she was definetly attracted to me; maybe I came off too needy: who the fark knows...

    This was only girl I genuinely connected well with and still fail kinda sucks

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    Default Re: What went Wrong??

    I bet alot of guys who try this stuff end up giving up because the beginning is so brutally difficult mostly cause of all the rejections

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    Default Re: What went Wrong??

    Yeah, a lot of guys do give up. Don't be one of them.

    There are a few things you did wrong here.
    First of all, you have to make it explicitly obvious that you are sexually interested in her. This is true whether you go direct or indirect, but it is especially true when you are talking to a girl who is at work while you are talking to her. You can't just have a conversation with a girl and then ask for her number and expect it to be OK. Sometimes you can get away with doing that, but you'll run into problems later if you do that. So, you HAVE to show interest in her. And you have to show interest in her for reasons other than her looks. This is where qualification comes in. You have to find out things about her that you like. "Oh, you play soccer/oh you're into yoga/oh you like to read, I love girls who are into sports/into physical health/do nerdy things like reading. I'll totally start hitting on you in the middle of this mall."
    You can always counter the compliment with a tease, like "Too bad you're such a dork." or "I can't even talk to you anymore!" or "I'm gonna pretend not to know you."

    Qualification is one of the easiest ways to find out if a girl is just politely having a conversation with you or if she actually likes you. Ask her questions about herself and see how she answers. "I'm really passionate about xyz...is there anything you're really passoinate about?"
    Or if you're feeling a little more ballsy, you can jump straight to a large qualifier and see how she reacts: "So what makes Jessica special?"

    But before you do qualification you need some attraction. (You can just go straight for the qualification if you want to try to skip attraction. I do that a lot, because if I can skip a phase, thats great, but it doesn't always work.) I'm not convinced that you had a lot of attraction from this girl. Yes, she might have been talking to you and stuff, but shes at work, so she can't really blow you off. DHV stories are OK, but you should also be teasing girls and doing role plays and things of that nature to get attraction.

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    Default Re: What went Wrong??

    I know for sure she was attracted to me by her body language and stuff but maybe i was wrong.. I no for sure going sexual would completely turn this girl off; She already told me i had bypassed her wall and she usually never opens up to strangers...


    and i qualified her as well!(thats why I'm confused) asked her about her interests and stuff etc...


    Im just confused as to what happened; Oh well;

    I think i need to stop overanalyzing all this shit and just keep approaching and gain EXP.


    This one hurt me and i just went straight home to analyze take a break

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    Default Re: What Went Wrong? (Sarging At the Mall)

    Why do you think going sexual would turn her off? You don't have to go sexual as in telling her you want to f*ck her, you can just simply show that you are interested in her the way a man is interested in a woman.

    And you're right, you probably are overthinking it.

    Either she wasn't actually that into you or she's just weird. Any normal girl will have no problem giving you her number if shes into you. Sh1t, girls even give their numbers to guys they AREN'T into a lot of times.

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    Default Re: What Went Wrong? (Sarging At the Mall)

    Yeah I think she was just weird; Oh well her loss;

    I honestly think U can even get a number just from attraction phrase..


    But i was shocked that this girl wouldn't exchange numbers;

    Even after the perfect girl story;


    Thanks!

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    Default Re: What Went Wrong? (Sarging At the Mall)

    Well she's a 'hired gun' so her defenses are pretty high man.

    What is the 'perfect girl story'...Please do share

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    Default Re: What Went Wrong? (Sarging At the Mall)

    Quote Originally Posted by cire113 View Post

    I honestly think U can even get a number just from attraction phrase..

    Thanks!
    You CAN get a number just from attraction, but it will almost always be a much flakier number.

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    Default Re: What Went Wrong? (Sarging At the Mall)

    20 min interaction

    Yosha would be proud.

    She worked at a booth selling sunglasses.. I went up genuinely interested in sunglasses.. She talks to me about 5 mins Soley about sunglasses...

    Did you expect to talk about dolphins?

    I said I had to go and pulled out my phone said nice meeting you Stacy we should talk again what's your number..

    You failed because you didn't assume attraction. Next time run either Kino's 95% Number Close or My Assumptive Number Close.

    I bet alot of guys who try this stuff end up giving up because the beginning is so brutally difficult mostly cause of all the rejections

    That's because they're chumps.

    (You can just go straight for the qualification if you want to try to skip attraction. I do that a lot, because if I can skip a phase, thats great, but it doesn't always work.)

    Good point. You can skip attraction if you assume attraction. That's the basis of an assumptive number close.

    You CAN get a number just from attraction, but it will almost always be a much flakier number.

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    Default Re: What Went Wrong? (Sarging At the Mall)

    Could've been a numbe of things. Either your body language. What you guys talked about orbsimply she does have a bf and she ain't lying and he might be more alpha than you or they're in their stage 1 of their relationship. ??? Dunno


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