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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    absolutely not......depends on how in depth you get with it and how your own mental state is.

    If anything my emotions are tuned up properly that way I handle myself well.

    You got normal guys out there embarking with women and some of them have their emotions so fucked up that they get borderline suicidal and depressed. And you think if you dont study PUA and such that if such events happen to make you feel that way you would learn from experience, but some never do

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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    One mans 5 is another mans 10. It's the balance of nature and relative to each mans interpretation of beauty.

    As far as picking up a 7 and then shooting for an 8 and so on and so on. I would suggest catching the oneitis with the one that best meets your emotional, physical needs. Compatiblity with a 7 would be much better than having a 10 for a trouphy that you have a hard time staying connected with. If you've been gaming so long that you're getting burn out, ya might need to take a vacation from it.

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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    It doesn't make you emotionless, you just care a lot less about petty shit.

    She doesn't like me? Big fucking deal, there's tons where she came from.
    As opposed to
    Booohooo, she doesn't like, what am I to do?

    So what I'm saying, it doesn't make you emotionless, it helps you control your emotions better.

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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    [QUOTE=skicat;74747]
    Quote Originally Posted by Xmrider View Post
    What do you mean by no one should be ok with 5s? Fives are still humans that need love Someone has to be with them and that is ok, as long as it is not me !QUOTE]

    One mans 5 is another mans 10. It's the balance of nature and relative to each mans interpretation of beauty.
    As far as picking up a 7 and then shooting for an 8 and so on and so on. I would suggest catching the oneitis with the one that best meets your emotional, physical needs. Compatiblity with a 7 would be much better than having a 10 for a trouphy that you have a hard time staying connected with. If you've been gaming so long that you're getting burn out, ya might need to take a vacation from it.
    It has been only a couple of months, but am on vacation for now

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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    I'm new to PUA and this is something that concerns me about getting into it. I can't relate directly, but it seems to me that this is the experience of growing up in life.

    It's like being afraid of a roller coaster when you are a kid and having an extremely visceral and real reaction to the perceived danger, but as an adult you realize it's just a ride designed by people that know a lot about what they do and the park has people dedicated to the maintenance/safety because if it wasn't safe people would not come and the place would eventually go broke... but when you are on that ride about to go over the big drop that primal fear that you felt as a kid and your adult logic connect...

    Is it possible that you still do feel something, but that it's less about the intellectual mystery of how seduction works? (I still love rides even though I know a lot more about physics and yield strengths than when I was a kid) It sounds like you are an active PUA if you have that many women in your life, what motivates you to continue as a PUA? Is it just about satisfying your need for companionship and sex now?

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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    mischevious, read the responses in here.

    http://www.puaforums.com/ask-expert/...-opinions.html
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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    No way does it make you emotionless

    Wrong. In time it does. Want proof? Ciaran is proof. I am proof.

    Don't get me wrong there may be some girls u sleep with cus there hot and no other reason, but Iv had a few girls that I lie there and make conversation with and genuinely enjoy there company and care for them.

    Then why sleep with them at all? What do you get from that? A high five? A f*cking sticker? A, "Congrats Bro, be proud you put your d*ck in that?" No, grow the f*ck up (not you specifically, Linking. Lol). Those few girls? Make them ALL the girls.

    It's different to caring like an AFC does cus she can go out and do whatever she wants I don't really care, I'd still be there for her if she was having a tough day and needed to just curl up with someone and forget about it. Some people may claim this makes me seem like an AFC in her eyes, but it doesn't I mean after all MLTR is just another way of saying Friends with benefits, or no strings attached sex. She's still my friend and I look after my friends that's my view on it anyway, the game isnt about sleeping with everything that moves, it's about forging better and more meaningful relationships with women.......even if I do have more than one

    Good. Much better :P


    Yeah, i mean after a case of oneitis, or a bad breakup or what have you, you just train yourself to not show your emotions or let any girls get too close. the thing is though that you would do that even if you arent a pua. everybody does this, its to keep themselves safe. if your a pua though you understand emotions a lot better for the purpose of understanding women and to better game them. this in turn allows you to understand your own and control your own emotions a lot better.

    Right, now think about that, think about me, then think about what kind of person would be a product of that going too far. Seeing some light?


    What do you mean by no one should be ok with 5s? Fives are still humans that need love Someone has to be with them and that is ok, as long as it is not me

    The whole number system is whack. What I see as a seven you might see as a nine. Take it as a generalization and don't pressure it.


    I was wondering whether you can become a burnt out PUA at some point?

    Ciaran, Mark Manson, Me, the list goes on. The only reason I'm writing right now is because I feel this point to be more important than the finals I need to be studying for.


    game doesn't make you into an emotionless psychopath, but it does make you emotionaly strong. with every rejection you face, the things girls say and do mean less to you, you stop caring what they will think, because you know that if she rejects you, you can have any other girl you want.
    as pua's we get emotionaly stronger every day we sarge, with every rejection. we become so strong that we really don't care what anyone thinks. nothing they say or do holds much significance to us

    This is the point being brought up. There is a HUGE difference between being emotionally strong and emotionally numb. Being apparently absent for a woman you care about as a means for her to grow strong is not the same as being abssent because you don't care. One you don't care at all. The other you have every care in the world.


    What I am looking for is the oneitis, but is there one point where your expectations are simply too high?

    Daygame had a video blog on this. They would say no, but they're a business now, aren't they? What sells, and what is right?


    not caring what people think about you= not conforming to society, and being your own person.

    Social inhibitions exist FOR A REASON. Tyler has even said that his lack of social inhibitions has become a problem. Balance.




    You want the list of guys who have openly come to this place in their progression? There's Ciarian (RSD), and there's me. Ciaran got in over his head and said it was all evil. I've taken the middle path. PU, in itself, is good, but you've got to know when to get out.I should have been by now but I'm a victim of circumstance. School is a priority over the last two threads I need to write here, but when I do, I'm gone.

    (tl;dr) For the newbies: Pickup isn't bad. It is a wonderful thing that will open up many doors for you, but the second you start wondering why you aren't happy, get out. This was never meant to make you happy, it was only meant to make you better.
    Wondering where I am now? Check out my latest project:


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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    No way does it make you emotionless

    Wrong. In time it does. Want proof? Ciaran is proof. I am proof.

    Don't get me wrong there may be some girls u sleep with cus there hot and no other reason, but Iv had a few girls that I lie there and make conversation with and genuinely enjoy there company and care for them.

    Then why sleep with them at all? What do you get from that? A high five? A f*cking sticker? A, "Congrats Bro, be proud you put your d*ck in that?" No, grow the f*ck up (not you specifically, Linking. Lol). Those few girls? Make them ALL the girls.

    It's different to caring like an AFC does cus she can go out and do whatever she wants I don't really care, I'd still be there for her if she was having a tough day and needed to just curl up with someone and forget about it. Some people may claim this makes me seem like an AFC in her eyes, but it doesn't I mean after all MLTR is just another way of saying Friends with benefits, or no strings attached sex. She's still my friend and I look after my friends that's my view on it anyway, the game isnt about sleeping with everything that moves, it's about forging better and more meaningful relationships with women.......even if I do have more than one

    Good. Much better :P


    Yeah, i mean after a case of oneitis, or a bad breakup or what have you, you just train yourself to not show your emotions or let any girls get too close. the thing is though that you would do that even if you arent a pua. everybody does this, its to keep themselves safe. if your a pua though you understand emotions a lot better for the purpose of understanding women and to better game them. this in turn allows you to understand your own and control your own emotions a lot better.

    Right, now think about that, think about me, then think about what kind of person would be a product of that going too far. Seeing some light?


    What do you mean by no one should be ok with 5s? Fives are still humans that need love Someone has to be with them and that is ok, as long as it is not me

    The whole number system is whack. What I see as a seven you might see as a nine. Take it as a generalization and don't pressure it.


    I was wondering whether you can become a burnt out PUA at some point?

    Ciaran, Mark Manson, Me, the list goes on. The only reason I'm writing right now is because I feel this point to be more important than the finals I need to be studying for.


    game doesn't make you into an emotionless psychopath, but it does make you emotionaly strong. with every rejection you face, the things girls say and do mean less to you, you stop caring what they will think, because you know that if she rejects you, you can have any other girl you want.
    as pua's we get emotionaly stronger every day we sarge, with every rejection. we become so strong that we really don't care what anyone thinks. nothing they say or do holds much significance to us

    This is the point being brought up. There is a HUGE difference between being emotionally strong and emotionally numb. Being apparently absent for a woman you care about as a means for her to grow strong is not the same as being abssent because you don't care. One you don't care at all. The other you have every care in the world.


    What I am looking for is the oneitis, but is there one point where your expectations are simply too high?

    Daygame had a video blog on this. They would say no, but they're a business now, aren't they? What sells, and what is right?


    not caring what people think about you= not conforming to society, and being your own person.

    Social inhibitions exist FOR A REASON. Tyler has even said that his lack of social inhibitions has become a problem. Balance.




    You want the list of guys who have openly come to this place in their progression? There's Ciarian (RSD), and there's me. Ciaran got in over his head and said it was all evil. I've taken the middle path. PU, in itself, is good, but you've got to know when to get out.I should have been by now but I'm a victim of circumstance. School is a priority over the last two threads I need to write here, but when I do, I'm gone.

    (tl;dr) For the newbies: Pickup isn't bad. It is a wonderful thing that will open up many doors for you, but the second you start wondering why you aren't happy, get out. This was never meant to make you happy, it was only meant to make you better.
    But does that mean that we shouldn't even do this? Or is it simply pick up is a tool used to be eventually thrown away once we have built what we wanted?

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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    But does that mean that we shouldn't even do this? Or is it simply pick up is a tool used to be eventually thrown away once we have built what we wanted?

    Ciaran would (has, and will continue to) say no, that you shouldn't. That it will ruin you. I say yes, that you should, but know when to get out and have realistic expectation when you get in. Almost everything that the top companies sell ethically & morally is a lie. Alright, they don't LIE, they just avoid telling the truth because it doesn't sell, and chumps only seeing what they want to see fall all too easily for it. If you go into this with the mindset that women will make you happy then you're in for a trip, because they won't. No amount of women will, and neither will one woman by herself. If there's one guy who IS willing to admit this it's Adam, who is married now. Search long enough and you'll find a documentary where he admits that at his peak (14 girlfriends simultaneously, all knowing about each other) he also hit the peak of his UNhappiness.

    As for your second question, it is not a tool thrown away, but rather a tool that becomes a part of you. I don't think anymore, I just do. Neg, push-pull, DHV--these things don't mean much to me anymore. They're scientific breakdowns of what naturals already know. Now that I'm a natural I only use these terms in teaching other men.

    I must say I am glad that guys here are now finally starting to question this. What do you REALLY want? It's not girls. It always starts with girls but never ends that way. In Dalton's parallel thread that he mentions, BatMan threw out an understated truth: Control. As for me, pickup was never about girls. If you read The Game you'll see the same is true for Tyler; however, being products of our past, I've stuck to much the same morals and beliefs that I've always held true. From what I've gathered from Tyler's past in what he's said in videos and such, he didn't grow up with much. Though I've grown up without money, power, and things, I've always had a family who loves me. Though it may be fragmented in parts they're always there. Tyler came from nothing so it's not hard to imagine what he wants. Everything. Girls, money, power, glory, everything, and he's got it now.

    As far Ciaran it's hard to tell. The dude was never cut out for pickup, that's for sure. I'd take a guess and say he had just about everything except fulfillment, so he looked for that in girls. Read his sh*t and you can tell he's smart. It didn't take long to realize girls won't fulfill you. He got into Tolle and took the religious route, which is noble. [For those of you who don't know, Ciaran was well on his way to being the next Tyler and would be who Julian is now had he not decided to leave. You can read his personal blog here. This is the post he shared when he decided to leave RSD.]

    As for me, I'm torn. I'm definitely not as noble as Ciaran. I want money. I want glory. I want (some) girls, but I also refuse to compromise my beliefs in what it would take to become as famous as Tyler. I'll find my way because an alternative doesn't exist. I won't choose to walk away like Ciaran though. Like I said, I want glory.

    To sum this up, do it. Become a PUA, because the path will take you to where you really want to go. If it doesn't, if you are incapable of grasping the realizations that must be made along the way, then to me you are a worthless person. You will die out without children, without a legacy, and without fulfillment or glory, but not everyone can achieve glory or greatness. How bad do you want it?
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    Default Re: Does The Game make you emotionless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    But does that mean that we shouldn't even do this? Or is it simply pick up is a tool used to be eventually thrown away once we have built what we wanted?

    Ciaran would (has, and will continue to) say no, that you shouldn't. That it will ruin you. I say yes, that you should, but know when to get out and have realistic expectation when you get in. Almost everything that the top companies sell ethically & morally is a lie. Alright, they don't LIE, they just avoid telling the truth because it doesn't sell, and chumps only seeing what they want to see fall all too easily for it. If you go into this with the mindset that women will make you happy then you're in for a trip, because they won't. No amount of women will, and neither will one woman by herself. If there's one guy who IS willing to admit this it's Adam, who is married now. Search long enough and you'll find a documentary where he admits that at his peak (14 girlfriends simultaneously, all knowing about each other) he also hit the peak of his UNhappiness.

    As for your second question, it is not a tool thrown away, but rather a tool that becomes a part of you. I don't think anymore, I just do. Neg, push-pull, DHV--these things don't mean much to me anymore. They're scientific breakdowns of what naturals already know. Now that I'm a natural I only use these terms in teaching other men.

    I must say I am glad that guys here are now finally starting to question this. What do you REALLY want? It's not girls. It always starts with girls but never ends that way. In Dalton's parallel thread that he mentions, BatMan threw out an understated truth: Control. As for me, pickup was never about girls. If you read The Game you'll see the same is true for Tyler; however, being products of our past, I've stuck to much the same morals and beliefs that I've always held true. From what I've gathered from Tyler's past in what he's said in videos and such, he didn't grow up with much. Though I've grown up without money, power, and things, I've always had a family who loves me. Though it may be fragmented in parts they're always there. Tyler came from nothing so it's not hard to imagine what he wants. Everything. Girls, money, power, glory, everything, and he's got it now.

    As far Ciaran it's hard to tell. The dude was never cut out for pickup, that's for sure. I'd take a guess and say he had just about everything except fulfillment, so he looked for that in girls. Read his sh*t and you can tell he's smart. It didn't take long to realize girls won't fulfill you. He got into Tolle and took the religious route, which is noble. [For those of you who don't know, Ciaran was well on his way to being the next Tyler and would be who Julian is now had he not decided to leave. You can read his personal blog here. This is the post he shared when he decided to leave RSD.]

    As for me, I'm torn. I'm definitely not as noble as Ciaran. I want money. I want glory. I want (some) girls, but I also refuse to compromise my beliefs in what it would take to become as famous as Tyler. I'll find my way because an alternative doesn't exist. I won't choose to walk away like Ciaran though. Like I said, I want glory.

    To sum this up, do it. Become a PUA, because the path will take you to where you really want to go. If it doesn't, if you are incapable of grasping the realizations that must be made along the way, then to me you are a worthless person. You will die out without children, without a legacy, and without fulfillment or glory, but not everyone can achieve glory or greatness. How bad do you want it?
    I see. I was actually frightened about adapting this life style. But it was due to my unfamiliarity I think and fear of change. I hope that your right and it does lead me to where I want. And I realize the things along the way.


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