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    Default Treading the friend line?

    So I had a crush on this girl and we talked a couple times months ago but I never made a move. Fast forward 7 months And of all places we "re-meet" online and had a long, awesome coffee date.
    All week she has been texting and we have talked on the phone a lot. Our second date is to go to her yoga practice- I am the guy who always ends up being a girl's friend and I am just freaked out that once more I have entered that zone. One red flag is that on the phone last nigh we made some banter about keeping up our houses and she mentioned two Ex's and in reflection she mentions ex guys a lot in regards to their basic details - marriage status, habits, if they were stalker types, etc.. Not in a way that she regrets or misses them. But that there seems to be some comparative analysis going on. the place is an hour from us so we have a commute and the hour long practice to get through, date is at 9:30am she heads into work at 6. I will be in an area of town I don't know so well.
    Looking for advice from you experts on handling the "day date" and suggestions for how to keep away from friend zone. I have used a lot of the tips here and finding myself better able to handle dates and not be such a tool around women. You guys are the best.

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    Default Re: Treading the friend line?

    i think it's disrespectful to speak of ur exs while dating/together...

    anytime she speaks of ur ex, it is not an indication she has FZ'ed u.

    to keep from FZ, u must man up n tell her or indirectly KINO and PUA her.

    i like direct.

    simply:
    --// escalate ur convo to a high energy point
    --// tell her u really enjoy what u guys do
    --// tell her u'd want to officially date her today
    --- if she dislikes the idea and wants to continue as is
    --// let her know ur cool with it... just that she
    --- she understands ur intentions... u dun want her
    --- to see u as a friend anymore - but as a suitor.

    when u want someone - there is no room to play guessing games. the longer u let them guess where they stand, the more they will convince their wome brain that they are only seeing u as a buddy, not because they were not attractive enough to have u come onto them.

    i have yet to have someone turn me down - i hope u succeed.^^

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    Default Re: Treading the friend line?

    You guys always have the answers! Things changed dramatically-
    She texted earlier today claiming to have made the worlds best cookies and I replied that there was no way that was possible and I have to try. By evening I was pulling up to her place - which I had never been to before- and was over there sampling the cookies. I sat next to her on her couch we shared some laughs and next thing I know we made out most of the night. Remembered to just be bold and had gone in for the kiss. Just based on all I had read here and advice I felt confident and relaxed. If that was not enough I number closed another girl at my office I have always had my eye on ! Epic stuff for a guy who has not been single in ten years and has always been a "nice guy" never able to get past being a buddy. More then just kissing all night - I learned a lot about her and we bonded emotionally as well.
    So stoked I cannot even express it. I knew I could have stayed over at her house tonight but wanted to play it cool since we have plans for tomorrow. This girl is kind of what I have been looking for and am blown away by how successful the night was and that she could barely tear herself away from me when I left. Thanks guys !

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    Default Re: Treading the friend line?

    Dream

    u were going to connect sooner or later... but ur not in the clear yet.

    i had been dating, but single for 8.yrs myself. dating is one thing, but when she becomes ur GF is another. so if u start feeling she is the one, u need to start reading:

    - No More Mr Nice Guy - by Robert Glover

    amazon.com should have a sample of the book... when u read a couple pages in, u will be blown away by how much u ARE the nice guy... however, women dislike having a Nice Guy and like to take advantage of our weaknesses. this is not a book ok being an evil man, just learning how to be more assertive and setting boundaries.

    this is a great read as u cannot allow a woman to start thinking, he is one way. it is harder to change her behavior later when u show her the new assertive u. so better to be assertive now.

    u also want to study some persoanlity tests and KINO (Juggler KINO and PUA KINO's LMR) to help u get over when u DO get to sex. u cannot hesitate when u can tell u both want it. her woman brain will start deducing that u cannot protect her or she is not attractice enough and will start deducing ur man score.

    GL, and lemmie kno how it goes if u want more coaching.^^


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