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    Cool Gaming HB8, but another guy has come into the mix. Competition...

    Firstly, I apologize for the long post, but I really need an experts help.

    I've been gaming an HB8 for sometime now. It's been going really well and we have been spending a good amount of time together. I'm always getting her to smile and laugh, through teasing, tickling and etc, but there's a problem.

    She's talking to another guy as well. She told me she's not talking to anyone else, but I know she's lying. I've met this guy before, he's shorter than me, but conveys way more confidence than I do. This girl is quite confident herself and I can tell she's attracted to that part of him.

    Basically, I'm competing against this guy and she's been bringing up his name often. Like she asked me if she should go with him on a road trip and I just completely ignored her and changed the subject. I don't bring him up or try to put him down because I don't wan to convey jealousy. I try to play it cool, but I would really like to talk to her about it. I've been trying to make her jealous by talking to other girls and texting during our hang time, but I'm not sure if it's the right move.

    She's always trying to grab my attention when we're together, but when we're with other people she seeks others attention. It's very confusing.

    What can I do to get this girl and blow out my competition? I think I need to build more attraction, but not sure how to do it this far in the game already.

    Note: Normally she wants to watch lovey chick flicks with me, lately she's been wanting to watch chick flicks that are about 2 guys and 1 girl. Where the girl is in a fork and has to choose. She keeps recommending these types of movies to me. I think she's hinting something.

    I feel like crap every time I think about this guy and her and I want to just find him and beat the crap out of him, but I know that's an immature rookie move. Any PUA expert advice would be much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Gaming HB8, but another guy has come into the mix. Competition...

    It's all good. I been there when I was an AFC in college. But I'm not going to sugarcoat what I am about to tell you.

    Sounds like you really like this girl. As sh1tty as it sounds, you will have to keep a degree of detachment and be ready to let her go and move on in case things don't go your way. Most importantly, don't put her on a pedestal.

    Internally, it sounds as if you are worried about losing her. The moment you worry about losing her, you already devalued yourself by putting too much value on her. So I'd focus more on your inner game.

    This girl sounds like a young (college gal?), an attention whore and she is mindfvcking you. Sounds like you are holding out well. But you can't keep this up. Making you watch chick flicks? *facepalms* You need to turn the tables on her and show you are dominant!

    All this stuff she is doing is part of her Sh1t games to screen you for your status and value.

    You need to turn the tables on her by showing that she is the one who needs to impress YOU.

    One of the things you can do is tease her and make her qualify to you. Start challenging her in a playful way. You do this by asking her questions and making statements that make her want to show you that she's cool enough, smart enough, fun enough, to be your girl. What is so special about her that qualifies her to be with you?

    For example, I once asked for a girl for her number and she deflected by saying "I'll let you add me as a facebook friend." I responded by saying "Oh, I don't know. Are you cool enough to be my facebook friend? I mean the people who are my facebook friends are really cool." That is taking control and showing who is dominant. You can even say, "the last girl I added turned out to be an attention whore and facebook drama queen *pause and look at her with confidence* You aren't an attention whore are you?" (doh! neg). Play it cool calm and confident you will cause her to qualify to you.

    And for the sake of all that is manly, do not let her drag you and make you watch "Twilight"...Especia lly if she is not your girlfriend. Even if she is your girlfiend, I'd hint that I'll go only if I'd get some ass that night. I'd suggest something completely out there like "Sure only if we get to dress up in costumes. I'll be the werewolf, you be the vampire and I get to do you doggie style when we get home. ARRROOOO!" You need to show some balls and introduce some sexual banter in the conversation. Escalate and sexualize the exchange. Maybe not that strong as the one I suggested. But you get the idea.

    The next time she suggest that you both watch "Twilight", deflect it.

    HER: "We should go see Twilight. It's sooo romantic. It's about a girl who has to choose between a werewolf and vampire."
    YOU: "It's too bad I swore off dating girls who watch romcoms or else I can tell you and I would've been an item."
    HER: "Wha? Why? It's not a romcom."
    YOU: "My ex was into that sh1t. She turned out to be a bat sh1t crazy attention whore. You're not an attention whore are you?"
    HER: "Uh, no?"
    YOU: "Okay, lets go watch a Romcom."

    Mindfvck her and be interesting and spontaneous. It's not what you say, its how you say it. As Denzel Washington said in Training Day. "Be the Wolf. ARRRROOOO!" You really need to take control of the situation and bring out the alpha in you. You got tough confident competition. You need to pull out all the stops if you want to win this one. Remember, women are attracted to men who are confident, interesting, fun, passionate.

    So you better be the other three. If not, get ready to move on and hit the batting cages to up your averages on the next game.

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    Default Re: Gaming HB8, but another guy has come into the mix. Competition...

    Good detailed information. You're right, I need to show some more balls and stop worrying if I'm going to lose her. I'm DHV'ing and I don't even know it.

    In high school I was always the aggressive/dominant one of my group of friends, but as time went on I felt really immature about the entire thing. I used to get into stupid fist fights over pride and ego and I've worked really hard taming myself.
    I'm much more passive these days, but I guess that's my problem. I need to learn how to calibrate my aggression and dominance to where it is acceptable.

    When I first started watching chick flicks with her, I would fall asleep and recommend watching something else. After awhile she would say "fine lets watch your movie", but then i would feel bad and just say nevermind. After that I just kind of let her choose what to watch. I don't even care to be honest, I'm not there for the movie; However, you're right I need to dominate more.

    I appreciate raw feedback that's not sugar coated. Those are usually the most helpful to me. Thanks. I'm open to more tips/advice though, I need this to sink in hard.

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    Default Re: Gaming HB8, but another guy has come into the mix. Competition...

    I've thought about this for awhile now and I am laughing my ass off and scratching my head wondering how I got to this point. This girl really has game, because I didn't like her at all at first, but now I'm here asking for advice. I need to just man up grow some balls and not get so attached anymore. I tried to fill a lonely void in my life with this chick, but hey she doesn't deserve to fill in shit if she's trying to play me for a chump.

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    Default Re: Gaming HB8, but another guy has come into the mix. Competition...

    Yea, man. Sometimes, you gotta take a step back and look at it from an outside perspective. True that loneliness due to hard times can get the best of us. But I'm glad you are catching on. If she won't let you touch her sexually or f close her, she is playing you like a boytoy.

    Sounds like she has game and there are women out there who are GOOD. Back in college, I got played full on like an AFC by a girl who had a boyfriend (collegiate baseball catcher) she was living with. The guy was away on summer baseball camp, she was mad at him for going abroad and leaving her alone. She was asking me out (who am I to say no to a pretty girl that time?), we hung out, I drove her around, treated her meals, studied together, let her copy my homework like a chump, listen to her rant about her bf. She told me another guy liked her yaddayah and took her to a concert. Even my friend was falling for her charms. When summer school was over, after final exam, she walked out, made slight eye contact, said 'bye' and it was the last we saw of her. Even my mom warned me she was a 'user/player' A wake up call learning lesson for me. After that I said never more. I hate to see you learning the hard way and making the same mistake.

    You are mentally prepared to let her go, that's great. Which means all you have to do is tell yourself mentally you got nothing to lose. It should make it easier then to say the things I suggest and not care how she reacts. You might be surprised at her reaction though. Pull away she may chase you with a kitten like voice "Are you mad at me?" Don't fall for it! At the most, I would turn her into a fvckbuddy.

    Start hanging out with other girls and if you don't feel like thinking of lines/routines just come out and say it playfully. Don't let her get to your head. The moment you got affected and you feel pissed, she won. The best thing you can do is beat her at her game. Get the alpha back.

    YOU: "I'm bored tonight. Let's do something interesting and fun. Let's stay in and get some pizza, beer and fvck like bunnies til the sun come up." (keep it light/funny).
    HER: (Surprised reaction)
    YOU: "What? You don't like pizza?"


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