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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    Hey Go, thanks for the additional information. I am certain you have been friend zoned. It seems from what you posted that you have a TON of comfort but really no attraction has been built (I can say this because this girl shares herself with you, but nothing physical has happened).

    I would definitely NOT underestimate the exboyfriend that much, however I do think he is NOT THE MAIN OBSTACLE here.

    Let me ask you, have you tried to escalate things? I mean you've built so much comfort that I am sure it would seem weird but have you made a move on her?

    I think right now you need to trigger her jealousy. Do a search on how to get out of the Friend Zone
    http://www.puaforums.com/how-get-gir...iend-zone.html

    Personally, I think you should make this girl jealous. Go no contact with her and get out a bit and let her know you have options. This will be a good start.

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    Fuser, I appreciate your advice and I will check out that link. I kino her everytime I see her, by grabbing her hand to do something or rub her arm, etc, and there is never a pull back.


    Here is a New Years Eve convo and jelousy the ensued.

    Me: What are you doing on NYE/"
    Her I have plans

    so I didnt mention another word

    At 2:00 am on NYE I posted a picture of me and a date at a club counting down the New Year. The next day she called me:

    Her What was that all about?
    Me: well you had "plans", so I went out and had a good time.
    Her: I had a boring time, my plans fell through
    Mer. I'm sorry

    But I could tell she was a bit jealous or just looking for compliments/affection.

    I will most likely not talk to her until she contacts me.

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    She doesn't pull back because she is comfortable, not necessarily attracted.

    See, above is a perfect example. You are there (friendzone), but you can get out. You just need to work on frame control. When she called you out on it ("What was that all about?") You explained yourself to her, you shouldn't have.

    Essentially, do as you said. Cut contact, work on triggering her jealousy again. Post pics with dates, etc. You need to change the roles, so when she messages you you are busy. You have a date, you have something awesome to do, you'll tell her later. Play with her age once she starts contact again. Tell her you generally like mature women (see if she qualifies herself to you). Also, in a couple of weeks when contact starts again you start flirting. No more chummy chummy talk, you need to escalate or you will be friends forever. Hope that this helps. Good luck

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    Yep, it helps tremdously! Thanks.

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    Update...Holy Crap!

    Ok, I absolutely went AWOL on her since the last post. Today she text me: Here is convo:

    Her: Got time to hang out after 12:45 (9:21am)
    Her: We can chat or get something to eat. (9:33am)
    Her: hello? (10:14am)
    Me: Sure (10:17am)
    Her: ? That doesn't sound very confident LOL
    Me: You're silly
    Her: Haha what?
    Me: You crack my ass up
    Her: Can you meet me now? (10:20)
    Me: Give 10 mins.
    Her: OK deal


    She was a totally different girl today and I refused to fall back in the old pattern. She initiated some kino and I was all over her today and she never backed down.

    I did make her jealous by adding a friend on FB who works at Hooters who just so happened texted me 2 pictures of herself while me and potential GF were talking. That really annoyed her I could tell. She started totally qualifying herself.

    I want to keep today's momentum...What should I or should I NOT do. Help!!!

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    That's what I like to hear. You stood by it and it works! I think you are good to go. Right now, you need to maintain the frame and control you have.

    DO NOT:

    Ask her on another date right away
    Msg Her and tell her you had fun
    BE NEEDY...let her come to you
    Compliment her, pay her too much attention. (Remember she's just an option, that's all)

    DO:

    Keep the flirty, cocky tone. She is intrigued
    Keep the jealousy. Tell her about that other chick (Don't overdo it, just a couple of words is enough...Something like...Such and Such texted me and told me the funniest story, she should be a comedian)
    Now, time to escalate like a BIG BOY. Keep the sexual tension and Kino going and K-Close her.

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    I will follow you lead. Who's to argue your brilliance? Not me, that's for darn sure.

    When we were talking yesterday at one point I asked her why she didn't end up going to AZ over the 3 day weekend? She mumbled some lame excuse, and so when I saw a little weakness I pounced. I said, well thats too bad because if we were dating there no way in hell would I allow my GF to go visit another guy out of state for 3 days. She ACTUALLY bowed to me in submission, with her head bowed and her eyes toward the floor, she said.."I know, I know."

    Then later she said, I totally get what a girls role in a relationship is, and its just hard for me to surrender, but she said I know what is right in the end.

    And finally when I was ramping up the sexual tension she asked if I liked go shopping for clothes, I said, NO. then she said it would be fun if we went together, I said only if I can go in the changing room with you. She said, I can change my own clothes..then she paused and looked at me and said, Really? You would want to be in there? I said, Absolutely! So we talked a bit about having sex and she asked what if when we had sex and she got pregnant? I said well if you start getting sick afterwards it would be time to go get a pregnancy test. She said You would have to go in and get it for me.I told her I would not plan on that but if it happened it happened. I'm gonna let her stew on that for a few days. Oh, and when she texted me to come see her, she was wearing an outfit I once complimented her own saying how hot she was in it. I did not repeat that statement when I saw her though, i did play it cool and cocky.

    Hopefully next report is...I totally banged her brains out!

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by GoJoJoGo View Post
    I will follow you lead. Who's to argue your brilliance? Not me, that's for darn sure.

    When we were talking yesterday at one point I asked her why she didn't end up going to AZ over the 3 day weekend? She mumbled some lame excuse, and so when I saw a little weakness I pounced. I said, well thats too bad because if we were dating there no way in hell would I allow my GF to go visit another guy out of state for 3 days. She ACTUALLY bowed to me in submission, with her head bowed and her eyes toward the floor, she said.."I know, I know."

    Then later she said, I totally get what a girls role in a relationship is, and its just hard for me to surrender, but she said I know what is right in the end.

    And finally when I was ramping up the sexual tension she asked if I liked go shopping for clothes, I said, NO. then she said it would be fun if we went together, I said only if I can go in the changing room with you. She said, I can change my own clothes..then she paused and looked at me and said, Really? You would want to be in there? I said, Absolutely! So we talked a bit about having sex and she asked what if when we had sex and she got pregnant? I said well if you start getting sick afterwards it would be time to go get a pregnancy test. She said You would have to go in and get it for me.I told her I would not plan on that but if it happened it happened. I'm gonna let her stew on that for a few days. Oh, and when she texted me to come see her, she was wearing an outfit I once complimented her own saying how hot she was in it. I did not repeat that statement when I saw her though, i did play it cool and cocky.

    Hopefully next report is...I totally banged her brains out!
    Doing well, keep at it. . One thing, don't comment on "I wouldn't allow such and such" remember you're in the seduction phase, and girls ALWAYS have a bossy possessive ex bf or figure in their lives, you don't want to come off like that. Remember you're Alpha, you do not need to make these statements because they can come off as insecure.

    From what you're telling me it's time for you to Close this girl. She already contemplated the idea and talked to you about it, that was your cue to get in her pants When you see her next, maintain your frame but ESCALATE. Take control and bring her to your place for a massage. If she resists the massage tell her to let go and relax, when you sense she's getting into it it's time for you to go all in for it. You have a small window to work with right now dude, if you do not make your move after so much sexual tension she will friendzone you again. Good luck.

    Also, remember to KEEP going with the jealousy angle as discussed above, that is key to this.

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by GoJoJoGo View Post
    I will follow you lead. Who's to argue your brilliance? Not me, that's for darn sure.

    When we were talking yesterday at one point I asked her why she didn't end up going to AZ over the 3 day weekend? She mumbled some lame excuse, and so when I saw a little weakness I pounced. I said, well thats too bad because if we were dating there no way in hell would I allow my GF to go visit another guy out of state for 3 days. She ACTUALLY bowed to me in submission, with her head bowed and her eyes toward the floor, she said.."I know, I know."

    Then later she said, I totally get what a girls role in a relationship is, and its just hard for me to surrender, but she said I know what is right in the end.

    And finally when I was ramping up the sexual tension she asked if I liked go shopping for clothes, I said, NO. then she said it would be fun if we went together, I said only if I can go in the changing room with you. She said, I can change my own clothes..then she paused and looked at me and said, Really? You would want to be in there? I said, Absolutely! So we talked a bit about having sex and she asked what if when we had sex and she got pregnant? I said well if you start getting sick afterwards it would be time to go get a pregnancy test. She said You would have to go in and get it for me.I told her I would not plan on that but if it happened it happened. I'm gonna let her stew on that for a few days. Oh, and when she texted me to come see her, she was wearing an outfit I once complimented her own saying how hot she was in it. I did not repeat that statement when I saw her though, i did play it cool and cocky.

    Hopefully next report is...I totally banged her brains out!
    One last thing, the pregnancy thing don't acknowledge it again. You are mature and experienced, brush it off and continue with your game.

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    Default Re: But the other Guy Is Stupid

    Got it, thanks i'll follow your advice to the tee.


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