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    Default Need Some Expert Advice

    Hey everyone,

    Ive been into PU for almost 5 years now, lots of ups and downs, lots of adventures and sex with lots of women, but i still feel like im missing something.

    I find that in most cases im always the one contacting the girl, its generally if i dont message the girl nothing ever happens, and this is even with girls ive slept with - if i text them they'll reply but i rarely find i have a girl chasing my attention on the phone...

    I find quite often in a club too that im the one who is constantly chasing (and if i dont nothing happens), and not that often will the girl make the effort to come back to me, or to keep things going, etc.

    I posted this here as ive been in this for AGES and had some good growth in myself and good success but am stiull struggling with this after so long, any thoughts or advice would be great,

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Need Some Expert Advice

    I think this is a great question Jack. I feel the same way with my relationships with women. Of course, we have evolved this way, for men to court women. But many women will often chase a select few men. The question is, how do we become that man? I'm interested in the responses to this.

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    Default Re: Need Some Expert Advice

    Quit validating them so early. Why work if you don't have to? You must always have the power to walk away from the relationship. Internalize this. I don't know of any easy way to do it either, it's hard. An example would be say a girl sends you a naughty pic.

    Her: Here, I took this for you
    AFC: Oh wow, you look hot!

    nope...

    Her: Here, I took this for you
    Me: Why spoil all the fun :P That's like telling a little kid what santa brought him for xmas

    I teased her a bit for sending the pic, but at the same time compared her to an xmas present which brings to light all kinds of things...such as unwrapping her

    I just made that line up on the fly, but the basic idea is intact I believe. You want her to THINK YOU MIGHT like it, but not be sure. The same principal exists in real life compared to texts...you need to almost accept and validate her.
    KISS - Keep it Stupid Simple

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    Default Re: Need Some Expert Advice

    Hard to say because I don't know your game. No idea what you say in your text. The fact that you seem to sleep with girls regularly is an accomplishment that many guys don't have the luxury of.

    I can share with you a case study I did.

    I have a friend who is pretty good looking, resembles Matthew McConnehey, but shorter, he has a care-free attitude, but he is a starving actor. He gets girls reguarly but from what I saw I wasn't impressed with their looks. None of them are out of his league in the looks department. He gets girls, but his retention rate is low. This friend sounds like he is in your situation.

    I have another friend, 60 yrs old, high-end makeup artist, bumbling speech, but funny and odd sense of humor. The guy has a rep for his superman stamina, full throttle pounding an hour straight. High retention rate. The girls he get, varies from fugly cougars to cougar ex models and some hot younguns.

    Both men are confident and don't give a sh1t what women think about them. But none of them have the PUA schooling like us. Nor are they the most intelligent guys in the lot.

    If you are not some slick James Bond debonair/casanova who is good in the sack, the key here is you need to keep things INTERESTING. As the above poster said, do not validate them early Keep your value high at all cost. The only time I'd drop my guard is if I want to cut them loose to make room for higher HBs.

    So, the above first friend. To a woman, his looks will get old fast and once they figure out that he is broke, he better bring something else to the table. He doesn't. As a result, a cute/white Thai girl he f-closed on gave him the famous "I'm not looking for a relationship now." So I know he is not THAT good in the sack.

    The second friend, not only he got women addicted to him via sex, he is interesting. Odd sense of humor. His brain is a bit fried from drugs. But he had a younger life of strippers, penthouse models, HBs. Now he gets cougar ex-models that still look good and some fugly ones.

    So the key is how do you keep things interesting? One of the things I recommend is maintaining a sense of mystery. Because once a woman finds out enough about you, you lose that edge. I try to keep certain things about my life unknown and if they ask, deflect. They might be pissed and say "Whatever" but don't budge. Be alpha. If you have some uninteresting doldrum job, don't tell her if she asks. Deflect by telling her your passions and ambitions.

    Some other things to maintain attraction is

    - Be unpredictable. Avoid typical dates like movies/dinner. Sometimes I do crazy shit and bring them to a strip club (if they swing both ways).

    - Teasing (via sexting) - Lots of resources on this forum on that.

    - Humor (laughter is a way to a woman's heart). If you are a natural, this is effective.

    - Show them you got passion (not about her but perhaps a hobby/interest you got in common) or ambition. The make up artist friend is an Emmy award winner. Being a makeup artist, girls dig that because he got the tips for something they need. They have something in common.

    - If you are intelligent and she is intelligent, you can pick each others brains intellectually. If you are intellectually gifted, then enlighten her, if she's a dumb blonde (She'll probably forget but at least you kept her interested in the moment)

    - Capitalize on any talents you have (e.g - playing guitar). Show them you have dimension to increase your value.
    I did this to a girl once. Took her to a karaoke bar. Since I can sing. When my turn was up I said in a meek voice "This one goes out to X...Be easy on me if I butcher this.) Opened the song with gusto. Watched her expression lol. +1 social proof. Goes back to being unpredictable.

    If not, you better be good in the sack. Theres alot of resources how to do that as well. You can actually get a girl sexually addicted to you.

    Many times, the girl and you will just be incompatible. It happens. There's someone for everyone. The guy she meets down the line that she clicks with is the guy who doesnt have to work much to keep her attracted.

    Maybe 1 out of 20 times you will meet that girl who is totally into you and you don't have to work hard. But the thrill of the chase isn't as thrilling, unless you like her as well.

    Happy Hunting


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