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Thread: DHV + Non-neediness + Frame-control yadda yadda

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    Lightbulb DHV + Non-neediness + Frame-control yadda yadda

    How well do you think this will work? Like, suppose I am having a conversation with a girl I just met, and I firmly but gently say that I am a gentleman. When she asks why, I say because I never disrespect women. Expectedly, she will raise her eyebrows, because every guy says the same. In response, I smile and say, "Yes, I am serious. If you do anything to piss me off, I still won't show any sign of disrespect. I will just silently walk away from you". And then, after a couple of minutes, visibly try to look distracted, and then throw a random "I'll be back" and step down and prepare to start walking away. In the ideal scenario, this should make the woman ask, "Where are you going?" while her eyes say "Did I say/do something wrong?". At which point, I will pause for 2 seconds, look at her with a serious or comically frowning face, then break into a gentle smile and say, "I'll be back real quick from the restroom. Gentlemen need to pee too!"

    How good/bad do you think this proposed set up is? Can it be used as part of the game? If so, at what time? As in, at what stage during the game?

    (Btw, no kidding - that's how I really feel about women. I will never show disrespect toward any woman. Which has always made it kinda hard for me to neg someone)

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    Default Re: DHV + Non-neediness + Frame-control yadda yadda

    I understand and feel the same way about negs. But teasing is good intentioned and playful. But everyone has different views on what is disrespectful and what is not.

    Whenever you DHV you want to Demonstrate Higher Value. Not Discuss Higher Value. That's what the "D" is for. If you tell a woman "Hey I'm not a stalker or a pervert. And I would never watch you sleep," this may come off odd to her. She may have not even considered these things and now you have brought them to the surface. So telling a woman you never disrespect women will pop into her head "Why would he say that. HAS he disrespected women before?" This is why it's better to demonstrate it in your behavior vs just trying to sell her the idea verbally. Allow her to discover these things herself through observing you. It will be perceived as more genuine and not as if you are only playing a role. You are better off stating, "Yea I'm an asshole and don't give a fuck," then turn around and pull her chair out, hold the door for her, etc. When she says, "I thought you said you were an asshole," just say, "I am," with a grin on your face.

    This sounds like it belongs in the attraction phase. When you are attempting to flip those switches to get her drawn to you. Just be careful about trying to qualify yourself to her by talking about your good traits. She should be telling you why she would be a good fit for you. Again, let her discover these traits on her own as you demonstrate them to her, without telling her, and the affect will be much more powerful.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: DHV + Non-neediness + Frame-control yadda yadda

    Quote Originally Posted by shortandgoofy View Post
    How well do you think this will work? Like, suppose I am having a conversation with a girl I just met, and I firmly but gently say that I am a gentleman. When she asks why, I say because I never disrespect women. Expectedly, she will raise her eyebrows, because every guy says the same. In response, I smile and say, "Yes, I am serious. If you do anything to piss me off, I still won't show any sign of disrespect. I will just silently walk away from you". And then, after a couple of minutes, visibly try to look distracted, and then throw a random "I'll be back" and step down and prepare to start walking away. In the ideal scenario, this should make the woman ask, "Where are you going?" while her eyes say "Did I say/do something wrong?". At which point, I will pause for 2 seconds, look at her with a serious or comically frowning face, then break into a gentle smile and say, "I'll be back real quick from the restroom. Gentlemen need to pee too!"

    How good/bad do you think this proposed set up is? Can it be used as part of the game? If so, at what time? As in, at what stage during the game?

    (Btw, no kidding - that's how I really feel about women. I will never show disrespect toward any woman. Which has always made it kinda hard for me to neg someone)
    When u say something about urself people will think the opposite (that's how psychology works) meaning why would a guy say hey i'm rich if he truly is. Let women deduce those things about u and don't say them.
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
    _Xavier.


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