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Thread: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close ASAP

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    Unhappy Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close ASAP

    Hi, I've met the most gorgeous and smart girl ever 10 days ago and I'm desperate for help.

    I'm completely new to the PUA thing, just started reading the game today. I'm the typical AFC but not an extreme case, I guess, as I found out today I sort of have 3 of the characteristics of the Alpha-male, I'm very well groomed, I have some confidence (depending of the scenario) and girls love my smile. I'm 36, MBA, she's 28 with masters education. I could even marry this girl, seriously.

    Here is the full story (sorry if too long):
    Met her on a club on wednesday 9, she and her friend were the ones that approached us. Happened that she works in the same industry. After a moment she asked me my phone and propose to meet any day for dinner. She was eager to talk to me, standing by my side and making eye contact all the time. She soon went home and I didn't try anything.

    Thursday 10th morning she added me on Wechat and after chatting 2 hours ask me my Facebook. I ask her for dinner, she says yes. Finally cancelled cos of a business meeting. Next day she was traveling to Beijing. Coincidently I had to go too to renew my passport. Told her I'm considering to stay for the weekend, we could hang out together, otherwise if she is busy I could go back in the same day. She said come. Ask her which area she stays, she gave me hotel name and address.

    Friday we went out for dinner by ourselves, after that met her friends and hang out the rest of the night. She was staring at me and giving me smiles all the time, so much that I was completely intimidated. Went back to hotel together and just said good night. I wanna kill myself for not having tried anything on the elevator or the aisle!

    Saturday morning she text how did I sleep, I said "not so good, cos I couldn't take something out of my head", she is curious but I told her prefer not to tell her. We spent the whole day together and had great conversation. Dinner with a girlfriend of her and then at a pub alone again. She ask "what was that thing that made you not sleep good". I initially refuse to tell her but then think, ok if she is asking, she might be guessing it, maybe is easier just to tell her, I was dying for her already. We were holding hands already, told her I like her so much, she seems to like it, but says "don't know, I'm not sure, I have to think it". I said "let's find out" then on the way to kiss her she stopped me. But didn't get cold, we keep drinking, I touch her, hold her hands, she searches for our horoscope compatibility, she even asked me how am I in bed!!! I thought I was on the right track, slowly but steady. Could see the brightness in her eyes and felt connected. Then we move to a club and just arriving she accidentally finds an old "friend", nothing special, but he had 5 Alpha-male friends, each one better than the other. She introduced herself to them and I was ignored the rest of the night, they hitting on her one after other…. depressing to say the least. Had some other girls trying to approach me but I wasn't interested at all. I left even without saying goodbye after a while. Big mistake again cos perhaps she would have decided to go back too.

    Sunday 13th early morning after just 5 hours of sleep she starts texting me. She says she "likes me a lot but don't want to have any relationship right now". She tells me, without asking her, that she didn't make out with any guy and asked me if I did. Told her of course I didn't. We were going to meet for brunch with a business partner. I was still destroyed by the hangover and skipped it. Fly back home. When I landed she has texted me again.

    Monday she flies back too, tells me "i'm back in town". And she has been initiating texting with me for everyday of the week in the morning, at lunch, in the afternoon, in the evening!!! All the time!! And it was all super nice, felt so close. Thought I still have chances!

    Wednesday 16th meet for dinner and she proposes cooking at my place another day. Went to a club, dance a bit, talk with other friend we found there, but I didn't know how to get closer to her…
    After a while others leave, and we have more intimate conversation. At some point I stand her up her chair by both hands and put her very close to me. She smiles and stares and ask me if I don't mind she's a bit taller than me (yep, just 2cm and she seems to care). I told her not at all. Then I was going to check how big difference it is by approaching my nose to hers, she thought I was going to kiss her and moved her face. That got me nervous and I screwed it. Asked her, stupidly, if I still have any chance, she says "maybe not". I say, that could be then a "maybe yes". Then she says "probably not"…. She said she's still not over a guy with whom was out a year ago in a different country (is true, she has pictures on fb), though is almost impossible they would go back together. We decide to leave and back home, was actually late.

    I text her on the ride back home to apologize for making her uncomfortable, mistake again. She said she wasn't but "she really thinks we should be just friends"…… damn

    Thursday 17th she keeps texting me again, and Friday I ask her for dinner WITH friends, she says yes. She cancelled last minute cos was tired and got the period.

    Saturday she texts to me AGAIN and asks me for brunch and a walk around my neighborhood, which is the most romantic area of the city. I thought perfect plan! Cancelled again last minute cos her father asked her to accompany him and couldn't reject. No more communication until night 1am, she text me again all nice and ask me to meet very early in the morning, cos later she has to meet some customers. I reject cos I'm out with friends and would be deadly tired.

    Yesterday we chatted a bit but she was busy, and today I swore to myself I would not text or call her and she didn't either.

    We may be meeting tomorrow or wednesday and I have NO CLUE how should I behave!!
    Probably my chances are tiny as hell, but I don't care, I wanna try whatever the cost.

    Should I let her breath and just talk as a friend, don't try anything? Or go straight, seek body contact, flirt and lure her? I guess is the second but I do not know how to do it!! Don't want to get into a very awkward situation and ruin it completely.

    Please HELP!
    I've never liked a girl so much in my life, she is really unique and is driving me crazy!
    Many thanks in advance, your help will be ENORMOUSLY APPRECIATED.

    Che

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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    it sounds to me like she really likes you. dont change what your doing at all, but i would try to get away from the friend stuff so as to avoid the friend zone, however what your doing is what is working so be subtle about it. if it were me i would use the wishing well kiss close technique. its a great technique and it works no matter how long you have been seeing the girl.
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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    Quote Originally Posted by daltonbrayall View Post
    if it were me i would use the wishing well kiss close technique.
    Hi Dalton! Is it any different than mistery's kiss close???
    I googled "wishing well kiss close" but can't find anything...

    Thanks a lot!!

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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    Moving from conversation to kiss can be a tricky thing.

    1st try organise your date near a park or somewhere private and romantic that you can stroll to easily after dinner or whatever activity you were doing together. Somewhere you can create your own 'wishing well'. The best place would be a park with a lake, pond, beach or river or somewhere with a water feature. If the girl actually follows you somewhere private like a park you know she is already quite willing to be with you and trust you. When you arrive at the water feature, or whatever you think will suit as a wishing well, pull out a coin from your wallet and say 'hey let's toss a coin and make a wish'. Do it spontaneously and don't make it look like you have done this a thousand times before. Hopefully she will also pull out a coin (give her one of yours if she doesn't have any change). Toss your coins into the water. Already you are sharing a daring, mysterious and physical experience together.

    Ask her first what she wished for. It doesn't matter what her response is, although this is a good minor test back to her about revealing secrets. Hopefully she will ask you what you wished for. If she doesn't tell her 'you want to know what I wished for?' or 'Here's what I wished for'. LEAN CLOSER INTO HER AND KISS HER ON THE LIPS. It is a quicker way to get a kiss going rather than endless conversation while you pluck up the nerves to kiss her. It is also highly symbolic. The coin = wealth, strength and stability. Giving it away = charity, honesty, compassion and wishing for a dream = having ambition, understanding emotions and sharing a destiny.

    If you don't live near water you could throw the coins off a steep ravine, cliff or viewpoint. You could be throwing the coin onto a road or into desert sands. Into a forest, into snow. It doesn't matter really, it is the imagination of creating a wishing well and using that to allow you to kiss her that counts.

    Also the act of pulling out coins is also quite intimate in itself. You kinda share your wallets and you can get quite close while opening your wallet and touching the metal coins. 'here, let me look at that coin you're about to throw..oh your throwing a nice old quarter' (touch her hands delicately while fondling the coin).

    Happy days!
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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    Sounds very good!! But what if she stops me again?
    Last time there was an uncomfortable silence after it.
    How should I react or what should I say?

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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    ouch, i must have missed that paragraph, sucks cuz thats the most important one. judging by this i would say that you have been friendzoned and the fact that she even tells you when shes on her period makes shows your in deep. hmmmmmmmm tricky.

    well heres what i would do. take her out, she can bring friends if she wants to but tbh thats a little counter productive. run kino escalation. heavy kino escalation. i say this because your trying to get her to remove you from the friend zone and the only way ive ever been able to do this is heavy sexual tension. also im pretty heavy on the eye appreciation. what i mean by this is showing her that your attracted to her so when you see her look her up and down, maybe grab her hand and spin her while saying "look at you." girls spend hours a day working on their appearance so they like feeling appreciated.

    now when you run kino escalation its very important that you roll off after every kino exchange until she is passing all your compliance tests with flying colors. i would also push pull her a little bit but do that delicately. i dont know the girl so i cant tell you exactly what to say but be conservative with it.
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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    Thanks for the help, really appreciated.
    I'll study this and post again if I got more questions.
    Cheers!

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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    judging by this i would say that you have been friendzoned and the fact that she even tells you when shes on her period makes shows your in deep
    not necessarily, chicks who wanna do "stuff" (despite her refusing the kiss) tell guys that they're on their period etc

    she does sound like she wants you why else would you invest so much into you? for a friend? i highly doubt it, mainly because she's still a bit hung over her ex that's what appears to be the roadblock here

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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    even though i dont know much about this girl, its pretty obvious that shes a classy girl. classy girls dont openly talk about their periods with anybody but close friends.
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    Default Re: Very HB8 slightly taller, think likes me but hesitate, need kiss-close

    Thanks hyp and dalton.

    She told me that she's on her period after canceling the date 10 minutes in advance. She said had already dressed up but she was tired, I insisted a lot to make her come out (mistake) and finally she told me about her period.

    Hyp I think the same as you, if she doesn't want me why would she text me day and night for a whole week?? The problem is I didn't make the right moves and she has thought I'm a pussy, that I'm not enough man to handle her and her passion. Actually she asked me directly about this after the first time I tried something. And I did well I think cos I told her I'm great in bed, pure fire and more stuff and she seemed to like it, I saw sparks in her eyes. Problem is later I lost my confidence in front of all those tall alpha-males and haven't showed to her the man I am.

    Yes she is very classy and dress very understated, even casual (cos otherwise she would have all men drooling over her all the time), trying to hide her assets. But she is a Scorpio and that is the most mysterious and sexual sign, I can notice it, she must be a bomb once is triggered! And she is definitely naughty.

    It is clear for me now that the mystery and sexual tension are the only ingredients missing here, especially the tension. I have to build it up to the point that she can not stand it any more. Get her back to the state of the first night we hanged out when she gave stares and smiles that would melt a glacier (what a pussy I was!).

    More ideas on teasing her, make things exciting, making her wish me again?
    Thanks!!!


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