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    Default Re: LJBF as a result of not enough report and emotional connection

    Great man ,you left your personality shine!...
    She removed the bag to kiss her,but you were cool,no problem....build emotions.
    Be carefull with NEGs.NEGs are very dangerous if they are unbalanced or ungenuine.It's very hard to fake a neg ,she will notice that and you will become creepy or try too hard.Strong inner game creates NEGs, nothing else.
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    Default Re: LJBF as a result of not enough report and emotional connection

    The girl I met yesterday was starting to send a little too many texts and just started chatting to me from te moment I am online on facebook. I wanted to stop it, but instead of telling her "stop it" I told her this:

    You know I like you very much. You give me the feeling of being genuinely interested in me, you know and talk about so many cool stuff which makes me hang onto every word you say, you are easy to talk to and I strongly appreciate that stuff... it doesn't happen very often that there is so much chemistry so early on when I meet somebody. I would really really like to know you better as a person. But not through texting or facebook, but by meeting you in real life. In that respect the 9th of february (that's when we scheduled a date) can't come too soon for me! When I gradually start to feel we know each other we can text and chat as much as we like.

    She replied she is feeling the same way and that I am right, that she is genuinly interested in me.

    This sh1t is freaking awesome! I feel her confirming my frame is very very good, which is a little contradiction for her to confirm she feels the same way. She was texting me and starting to chat with me all the time... so she obviously doesn't feel the same, she cannot wait. I feel this her trying to build report with me and trying to qualify to me.

    Traffy, I did not feel as she was moving in for the kiss... or perhaps she did remove the bag so I can kiss her. But as I know AND feel there was tons of attraction but still no palpable emotional connection. So I felt the danger of buyer's remorse lurking around the corner, and I am an expert in creating buyer' remorse so I am not willing to repeat my mistakes. I rewarded her by directing my body completely her way. This resulted in a more sexual tension and animated conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    I am glad that you have started to see these things. Not many do. Understanding that she has to see your interest in her grow naturally is important in creating a genuine connection. You are onto a deeper level of game my friend. It'll be an astonishing journey.
    Yeah I truly feel I am embarking on an astonishing journey. I feel reborn... and what's more, once you see the dots connecting, once you know for yourself sex with emotional connection is better than sex with only attraction, once you feel your interest in her has to grow naturally you automatically do the right stuff. It automatically sets the frame of you who is controlling where it's going.

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    This thread has been truly amazing, I have been having the same realizations in the last few weeks. At the same time, I have decided I will no longer drink, it is giving me a whole different perspective. At the same time, on NYE I sparked something with an 18 year old on her initiative and have noticed you avoiding the same mistakes I have made.

    What I have found is the same thing as you. I have been able to go out and seduce, quite easily most times, but when I go out now and have the same opportunities, I will often turn women down because I am sick of meaningless sex and my forced creation of a connection just deep enough for them to sleep with me. It's a terrible cycle and if you fill a cup with water, it will slowly evaporate and need refilled with fresh water.
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    Hello Blistex,

    It's great to hear you can relate with this thread. Although I don't fully understand what you are trying to say. Am I correct you discovered the same thing as me? The same thing Batman is trying to teach me? Conveying your interest is genuine and must grow naturally? You got tired of it? Damn, it's a pity to hear... but I guess that'll mean you can fully concentrate on other stuff? Now atm I am fairly obsessed on trying out new stuff with my new found wisdom, but I can imagine a time will come it doesn't mean a thing to me anymore.

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    I guess what I'm trying to say is, I have had a lot of the same thing going on, but I have used alcohol as a crutch for so long (drinking 3-5 days a week for the last year) that now that I have quit I'm starting to actually feel things again and I can't just mask them by getting drunk. I guess I just happened to stumble upon this thread just as I needed to see it. Funny how the universe works.

    I guess I just want to learn how to emotionally connect with people, and not just fake one with a woman for the sake of bedding her. It is going to be an interesting journey for sure.

    And no I'm not tired of any of this...I'm tired of feeling like there is no one out there that I can grow with. All of this is so much fun, but I want to find someone who challenges me, and I do the same for. Someone who I can grow with, rather than use this path as a means to an end (getting laid), I would rather take the lessons from PUA and use them as a means to a constantly changing and evolving life where I never become stagnant again. I can't do this until I learn to emotionally connect with people, rather than fake it (which I have gotten very good at).

    If you can't tell...I kind of have a problem expressing things sometimes and it has been a major sticking point in my game. I have spent so long learning to make others feel good around me that sometimes I find it hard to be who I am. I can get a woman to date me, but it rarely goes further with any girl I really like. The only ones that want to go to this stage with me, aren't really worth my time.
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    Update about the girl whom I met last friday:

    She texted me a long beautiful poem about someone who is trying to express her feelings to someone she loves, but is not able to find any words worthy enough.
    My text back: Wow I am really really starting to like you so much! I wish I was as sophisticated as you are
    She: Your message made me blush! if I am not creating false hope... I really like that poem for ages now! Da Vinci said simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
    Me: Don't worry, I really need to get to know you better first, but you already managed to make a huge impression on me.
    She: Oh my god... I am so much looking forward to seeing you again this Saturday! I simply can not wait!

    I don't know what she meant about creating false hope. At first I thought she was affraid I am falling for her, but I think she was affraid of me thinking she is better/more sophisticated than she really is. Either way, I think my response was really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blistex View Post
    I guess what I'm trying to say is, I have had a lot of the same thing going on, but I have used alcohol as a crutch for so long (drinking 3-5 days a week for the last year) that now that I have quit I'm starting to actually feel things again and I can't just mask them by getting drunk. I guess I just happened to stumble upon this thread just as I needed to see it. Funny how the universe works.

    I guess I just want to learn how to emotionally connect with people, and not just fake one with a woman for the sake of bedding her. It is going to be an interesting journey for sure.

    And no I'm not tired of any of this...I'm tired of feeling like there is no one out there that I can grow with. All of this is so much fun, but I want to find someone who challenges me, and I do the same for. Someone who I can grow with, rather than use this path as a means to an end (getting laid), I would rather take the lessons from PUA and use them as a means to a constantly changing and evolving life where I never become stagnant again. I can't do this until I learn to emotionally connect with people, rather than fake it (which I have gotten very good at).

    If you can't tell...I kind of have a problem expressing things sometimes and it has been a major sticking point in my game. I have spent so long learning to make others feel good around me that sometimes I find it hard to be who I am. I can get a woman to date me, but it rarely goes further with any girl I really like. The only ones that want to go to this stage with me, aren't really worth my time.
    I'm glad this thread was started. There's much about building a connection that a lot of PUA's on here are just not ready to hear since it involves opening up and being in tune with your emotions. Which, of course, is looked down upon as being beta. Shame because they could really get women to be almost obsessed with them if they just opened their minds and put away their egos. There's some really amazing things out there.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUA Bart View Post
    Update about the girl whom I met last friday:

    She texted me a long beautiful poem about someone who is trying to express her feelings to someone she loves, but is not able to find any words worthy enough.
    My text back: Wow I am really really starting to like you so much! I wish I was as sophisticated as you are
    She: Your message made me blush! if I am not creating false hope... I really like that poem for ages now! Da Vinci said simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
    Me: Don't worry, I really need to get to know you better first, but you already managed to make a huge impression on me.
    She: Oh my god... I am so much looking forward to seeing you again this Saturday! I simply can not wait!

    I don't know what she meant about creating false hope. At first I thought she was affraid I am falling for her, but I think she was affraid of me thinking she is better/more sophisticated than she really is. Either way, I think my response was really good.
    I really like this. She IS getting comfortable with opening herself up to you without fear of rejection. You will gain much rapport in no time and she will only desire to be even closer to you. I also really like your responses. But if I may critique....just a little lol....

    Your responses sound really controlled. Now...you didn't tease her, which is GREAT. She would never do anything like that again if you did. So I know that's a big step for you to NOT tease her. But try this...

    Try NOT seeming so controlled. Something like "Omg I can't stop smiling," really shows that she has an affect on you that you can't control. Saying things like "There's something about you that I can't help myself but be drawn to you," are very powerful statements. When you give her the feeling that you CAN'T control yourself around her when you actually try to, sends a very positive and powerful emotion to her.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    I'm glad this thread was started. There's much about building a connection that a lot of PUA's on here are just not ready to hear since it involves opening up and being in tune with your emotions. Which, of course, is looked down upon as being beta. Shame because they could really get women to be almost obsessed with them if they just opened their minds and put away their egos. There's some really amazing things out there.
    I was actually thinking about this the last few months, how the most alpha thing of all is not being in control of your emotions as much as knowing how to express them in a health way. That is what I think this girl I'm seeing now will help teach me. I remember a 44 year old woman I was seeing once. She told me that the most attractive thing about me was that I was not scared to reveal my emotions to her. BatMan, I would like to PM you a couple questions I have about this girl I'm seeing now if you don't mind, it mostly relates to this thread, but I would like to keep it private.
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