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Thread: Quick advice needed guys! URGENT!

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    Default Quick advice needed guys! URGENT!

    So...

    Man I'm drew. Got good game been travelling for ten years fucking all over.

    Got a mad hot chick from USA on the go, or trying to...we stay in the same resort in Thailand right now, and I wanna hit it BAD. I helped her and a friend out a few days ago, nice and friendly, with accommodation for their next stop, where we are now COINCIDENTALLY both staying and heading to later today...

    Here's my question...

    Tried the old push-pull the other night, given that there's defo IOI's from this girl "check out my tattoo on my butt, etc...why did you leave us last night?"). And she shows interest but her fat buddy is defo cock-blocking and her attitude changes around her buddy...

    Anyway, the other night we went to a big party (full moon party, here on Koh Phangan) and she took off with a big group after I went and sat with some Austrian buddies. So that was the last I saw of her that night, which was the night I was planning on hitting it. she did wave as she left and indicate she was leaving.

    Have not seen her since, not really too bothered, but today we travel in the same taxi, same boat, same taxi again to the resort. Same rooms pretty much next door...it's a nice, chilled place, swimming pool right there. Chilled beaches, great nightlife.

    So quick advice guys - how to play it? Cool, distant, push-pull? Straight up? I'm kinda thinking the money thing is to say flat out "what was with just walking off the other night and leaving me with my friends without as much as a proper see you later? I am pissed off. That was kind of selfish and kind of sketchy) given that she has sort of committed to other outings, and then not followed through, although she seems keen when her plans would go well with me joining her. Is she looking for a safety net? She must think I'm a nice guy from the first time we met, though I've tried to be mean since, and done quite well... she defo wonders where I get my money from, bit of mystery there (answer's porn. I star in them, hot bod, etc). She doesn't know I worked in porn. Tell her?

    Like I said, there's two of them, from San Fran Bay Area.

    Some advice from you dudes on how to roll with this would be appreciated. And links to threads that might go into more detail on what you suggest?

    I've fucked like a 100 women, and that's outside of porn. I have good game, but need to step it up for this hot bitch.

    It helps she's a bit dim too eh?

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    Default Re: Quick advice needed guys! URGENT!

    Since you've had success in the past, and you run a natural game, it's kind of difficult for me to tell you what to do. From the sounds of it, you didn't seem to need to work very hard to have girls falling over you by the troves.

    I can tell you what not to do. Calling her out because you are pissed is not alpha. You just want to look unaffected. So sounds more like bruised ego. From my understanding, you guys weren't exactly on a date and she was under no social contract to stay/ stick around with you. So don't let it get to you.

    If this girl requires a bit more game than your past conquests, then you are going to have to step it up and inject more value in your conversations with her and escalate it. It's not necessarily just push-pull. Are your conversations sparking a strong emotional response in her? Do they make her laugh? There's alot of factors. The biggest question is are you communicating value? Value being defined by what you bring to the moment she is experiencing. Are you making small talk fun and sexy with her? Is it like so intense, that anything outside of that moment is irrelevant? If not, then it's not intense enough.

    You don't have to tell her what you do as a profession. Some of the most meaningful conversations involves sharing the least amount of personal information. And frankly, a place like Thailand, you there to have fun and not talk about work. Like who cares.IF she asks. Just be alpha and control the conversation by not answering and talk about something else. "Hey, do you like X?"

    Your goal should be to get her alone on a night out, just you and her and isolate her from any cockblocking distractions. And F-close her that night with your pR0Nstar superman stamina.

    Bill Preston, the admin, mentioned it in his newsletter where he f-closed an HB9 by showing disinterest at first ignoring her in a 3-set. After her whining she needed to use the restroom, he then eventually walking her to his beachhouse so she can use the bathroom (establishing comfort). Later at a party, he isolated her by taking her for a walk on the beach where they made out and he brought her back to his beach house and f-closed her.

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    Default Re: Quick advice needed guys! URGENT!

    So travelled all day yesterday, amping her attraction. Was all good, she was showing much interest, I played it as I.M.mortal suggested above, was all going swimmingly, until...

    Nighttime, she said twice "nothing is gonna happen tonight." Really turned me off. So we went out to party, I left them to it went rolling by myself meeting chicks.

    Wake up this morning with a note under my door from her, "too bad, it could have been fun."

    WTF? Normally I like a girl, I move in it all goes lie clockwork. Is this chick dippy and/or stupid? Does she just like tension? Someone advise what to do now? I can't see a way to making this work now...

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    Default Re: Quick advice needed guys! URGENT!

    Man, listen and all you aspiring pua's listed very closely. When a woman says to you, "that you are not going to get sex" and you didn't bring it up, then what she is really saying is I am really considering sex with you. I need to establish plausible deniabilty so that I don't feel like a tramp later because "it just happened." Sorry buddy you screwed the pooch on that one.

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    Default Re: Quick advice needed guys! URGENT!

    Man I can see why you'd think that...thanks for the honesty...but im really no anateur. Used to women telling me what they want, and really only attract that type, so id been making my intentions known all day, she was obviously giddy from it all, and we'd just spent dinner talking sex.

    So thats why when I was massaging her in my room and checking out her underwear and I asked her about what we were going to do tonight, re: sexually (which was really nothing more than a formality to me) her comments, repeated, were a surprise, a dissapointment, confusing, and a turn off. If you tell me no twice I'm not gonna beg.

    I feel like this gurl maybe doesnt have a clue what she's doing.

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    Default Re: Quick advice needed guys! URGENT!

    Noooooooo Drew. Damn it, you had her. You made your intentions known which is cool. Sounds like you played it right...up to the moment you walked.

    Kino is right. The term's called "Plausible Deniability."

    The fact is she probably would've fvcked you. So what you do is, you don't beg. You just make pretend you never heard what she said, look unaffected, and let things happen naturally. You had her in your room, you already established physical contact, and start sexually arousing her physically (brushing her inner thighs, lightly stroking her forearms while whispering in her ears, etc.).

    Frankly, you didn't/shouldn't need to verbally ask "What are we going to do tonight?" There is no need for formalities. Just let your body do the talking. Women make their decision purely on emotions. As a guy, take the lead, no questions like that needed because you just giving her ways to sh!t test you.


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