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    Default "BAD TIMING" says she, help boyfriend-destroy a past crush come home!

    This is a very interesting scenario, yet altogether annoying. The only reason why I'm asking help on this is because its a cultural situation. The girl, lets call her Jane Doe, is a straight up HB9. I met Jane through a friend of mine, say Tom, at a christian church about a month back. I did a little bit of push/pull and some DHV whatnot and really was a genuine sweet guy to her, and she loved it, and was texting my friend that night that I was a sweet and handsome and hot guy and whatnot. etc. I didn't ask for her number that night for a few reasons. They're all Assyrian, and its gentlemanly (or considered to) to wait and grow a relationship like a good christian man instead of rushing into things. So the next week same day I show up and she still has the same mood-ish, shy around me, what not, still really liking me. Then the third week, she tells Tom that some guy, say John Doe, has just come back into her life and is talking to her. So now she likes two people, but is leaning towards this guy because he is from her past and is much older (6+ years hes 26 she is 20) and he is also Assyrian.

    I saw this guy at her birthday party and sized him up pretty quickly, typical tumor-nosed middle eastern looking guy, skinny arms and legs, kept his cap on like some thug, and wouldn't look at me when I'd do some dom stuff like stare him down. Not a fighter. Now, I did some searching around and found this out, the guy is still talking to other women, he just got back from the marines and has no job, and he wants to marry this girl. In assyrian culture when someone dates its literally giving away the woman, so I don't want this girl to fall into a shitty life with this loser. He was pushing himself on her at her party, trying to kiss her and I could visibly see her refuse him. He told her at an earlier point in time that they need to "increase their physical relationship" what a blatant fool. I know her and her brother/parents pretty well, and I could easily tell them how this older man was groping and touching their daughter and ruin his chances with her forever but I want to be creative and try to talk her out of seeing this guy.

    I was going to sit down with her and do the gradual comparison thing, explain to her why past relationships dont work very well, and why age gaps dont help either, compare it to my own experiences, administer a good feeling juxtaposed with a bad one and kind of get her to see how foolish she is being. This girl wants to do pharmaceutical research and go to grad school, she cant be wasting time with some loser who is (well first off not a PUA in the least bit) and couldnt support her or a family with his measly earnings. This girl is a virgin, thats how most Assyrians are. Whats a good way I can set up a bad image of this guy in her head while at the same time not so much aggrandizing my own image but helping her see how this guy is just playing her or slowing her down? Hes someone she knew from her childhood so tarnishing his image may not be that easy, but he has been gone a long time and he is different she admits. I want her to realize that this guy is just extra baggage and is playing her and is not good for marriage. If he gets her its likely that this dreep will want to marry her, thats how Assyrians are, any relationship is permanent, well mostly. She's in a stupor right now and I want to bring her back over to liking me. Once I have her I'm golden, but this 'obstacle' is inconveniently placed in my way, and I must remove it. He isn't human to me, he's a piece of garbage, so it doesn't matter what method I have to use to get him away from her, as long as it works. What do you recommend? What are some good bf-destroyers (although their not technically dating because the parents wont allow it lmao). I know this girl is young but she's worth it and I look good to her parents and I believe I can win her over once the trash has been taken out.

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    -V.L.A.

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    Default Re: "BAD TIMING" says she, help boyfriend-destroy a past crush come home!

    The classic thing to use would be a boyfriend destroyer. But I don't think that will be enough. You say you are in good standings with the family so I think you should use that. Now, I don't mean go rat on the guy about her and him together. (She may resent you after she finds out you whined to her parents about him.) What I mean is get them thinking that you are a better fit for her than this guy. As long as she holds her parents word in high regard you should be fine. If she is rebellious then this may hurt you. Use your best judgment.

    I would also find out what she thinks of him. If she is avoiding kissing him then it's a good sign she has no leftover feelings for him. If he pushes himself on her then you may have to swoop in and get her. Be a protector. Find an excuse to get her away. Yes, he is a marine and may be prone to fighting. I am not a fighter either. So I may get beat up, but I WILL scar someone for life. That's how I look at it. I am in the USA so not familiar with the culture of where you're from. So take this with a grain of salt. Hope this helps and good luck.
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    Default Re: "BAD TIMING" says she, help boyfriend-destroy a past crush come home!

    I don't want to really elevate this guy in her eyes though, she's in a stupor and likes him. enough to not want to tell me at all and expect me to just lose interest naturally (from my perceptions of how things went). This guy seems like an AFC-wannabee, 26 years old hanging out with a bunch of 19-20 year olds. Doesnt that show insecurity? Perhaps he could never handle a woman of his own age? He's the typical cultural guy (like most assyrian/greek/italian men) who mess around with many women then choose a virgin to marry. I will not allow this wanker to deflower this girl. No way. I'm actually going to sabotage him through the parents but not through me, someone else is going to make sure the parents know that this creep is around her daughter. What types of boyfriend-destroying techniques could I use to get her to see that there is something aloof in this guy? That his behavior is inconsistent, pushy, and immature? I am not leaving this without resolution and seeing this loser ruined. Its not wrong to commit a lesser evil to prevent a greater one I think. I would rather see her end up with a guy her own age who actually has something going for him in his life rather than this older frustrated chump. Please All-Stars of the PUA forum, anymore extrapolations? I'm seeing her friday after this church class and I want to work some psychology on her good.


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