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    t4ck is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Mind = blown. Can sorely use some advice.

    Hey PUA's,

    This is my first post here and it's a cry for help from my brothers in arms. I am having a rough time closing a woman.

    Back Story:

    This woman is an exotic dancer, I recently met her in the place in which she works and we hit it off really fast. Since that first time we met I have been in a few times and she always gravitates towards me.

    The first meeting she was seemingly completely awestruck and the IOI's were involuntary and flowing like water through a sieve.

    After that the next few times I have been in there it has been strange: She seems to go in and out of business mode and really really seems like sometimes she is fighting the urge to keep her hands off of me and other times she tries to re-establish the business/client boundaries.

    She told me the first time I met her that she had a boyfriend and it didn't phase me. So I honestly think there are multiple factors weighing in here. I think she is very attracted to me and it trying to fight her urges out of respect for her boyfriend by trying to keep it professional.

    She'll come sit with me and do all the subconscious IOI's like preening and she dotes over me. She gets a little agitated if other women are around me and she focuses intently on watching me & the other girl even if she is on stage performing she'll glance over every couple of seconds to see whats up.

    She goes through these stages where she will kiss me on the cheek every couple of seconds and throw in a bite or two on the neck, lingers and smells my cologne. Then she'll all of a sudden realize what she's doing and the hands come off and she'll kinda sit on them or try to find some way to anchor them in her lap. Then she'll slowly go back to grooming me and doing these subconscious things.

    I just honestly feel that she is really torn between her man and taking the plunge with me. And I have been trying to be cool about it. I know I have definitely made some mistakes here and I think I may need to try and negate them somehow. (Like showing too much interest, going from AMOG to hitch hiker, being too aloof & other things) And I don't know if I can salvage it.

    So. Quite frankly I am at a loss. I do not know how to proceed, how to close the deal. Or anything. Some of you suave and tuned in PUA's please throw me a lifeline!

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    sizart is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Mind = blown. Can sorely use some advice.

    Have u tried re-establishing yourself as the AMOG in her eyes?
    Or is that not even a possibility, to "back track" so to speak??

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    t4ck is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Mind = blown. Can sorely use some advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by sizart View Post
    Have u tried re-establishing yourself as the AMOG in her eyes?
    Or is that not even a possibility, to "back track" so to speak??
    I believe it is possible to back track. What I am considering doing is not going in to the club for several weeks. And when I make it back I will be able to re-establish myself. I think that the nature of a gentlemens club and the amount of interactions these girls have trying to make a buck will work in my favor. It's almost like I can come in completely fresh because she gets all these tools day in and day out. In the meantime. I am reading mystery method and trying to step up my weak game.

    I admit: I need help in all areas of my game.. I'm in my mid 30's just out of a LTR and I have been out of the game so long it's really hard to get back in and be effective. I am not a bad looking guy, fairly intelligent, have my own house in a really nice community and a nice car, the problem is this last relationship killed my friendships, so basically I am starting from scratch.

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    sizart is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Mind = blown. Can sorely use some advice.

    Hey no worries mate, I'm starting fresh too.
    k then go out as much as you can to different places and practicing game in the mean time.
    Also, careful to not get one-itis for this girl bro.
    You just got of a LTR, time to catch up, not get stuck on a single girl again!

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    Default Re: Mind = blown. Can sorely use some advice.

    Well my friend. If she has a boyfriend and she's interested in you she should leave her boyfriend, if not she shouldn't be upset if other women are flirting with you and if you are having a fun time with women. You are single, she's not. If you have built enough rapport and she's comfortable with you aim for a Facebook close then maybe later aim for a number close. How is the Rapport situation between you and her?

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    t4ck is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Mind = blown. Can sorely use some advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by sizart View Post
    Hey no worries mate, I'm starting fresh too.
    k then go out as much as you can to different places and practicing game in the mean time.
    Also, careful to not get one-itis for this girl bro.
    You just got of a LTR, time to catch up, not get stuck on a single girl again!
    Solid man, thanks. That is too true.

    I have made some connections on Match dot com and am working those and trying not to get one-itis. But the challenge is a huge draw.

    One of the things that really sucks in this situation is I have had an absolutely horrible wing the past couple times I have been in there. At first it was good because he knew a lot of people there and got me connected fast but once he realized the attention I was getting he kinda went dickmode and started sabotaging my gains. Nothing worse than being c-blocked by a wing.

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    t4ck is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Mind = blown. Can sorely use some advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Casio View Post
    Well my friend. If she has a boyfriend and she's interested in you she should leave her boyfriend, if not she shouldn't be upset if other women are flirting with you and if you are having a fun time with women. You are single, she's not. If you have built enough rapport and she's comfortable with you aim for a Facebook close then maybe later aim for a number close. How is the Rapport situation between you and her?
    Rapport is good though I feel it comes and goes. Especially the past couple times there my wing has been a total douche. Nothing like your wing totally undermining any gains you make.

    The girl and I identify on a lot of levels and she has shared a lot about herself with me. I honestly feel like if I reestablish myself and come in alpha after a few weeks it will do the most good. One thing is for sure, I won't be with the same wing.

    I also think that coming in with this wing has lowered my status with her. I am in a totally different class than the wing. Hindsight is 20/20.

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    t4ck is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Mind = blown. Can sorely use some advice.

    So anyone else have any sage advice for a floundering fool?


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