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    Default point of confusion: her chasing vs giving attention

    Recently I've watched a bunch of speeches from the under 21 convention, primarily afc adam. I'm really confused with direct and indirext right now. For instance, style or mystery use indirect game to not directly hit on a chick. They approach the group and ignore the hb that is their target. However many other sources and in my experience say to isolate the girl, flirt with her and deep conversate to get to know her, and escalate one on one. Her chasing you... is a hard concept for me to grasp. I've read a lot about girls chasing. But direct game meaning telling your true intents would make her chasing you pretty much impossible. However, if you amog, you won't chase her either. I guess the situation, and the type of hb is what primarily matters. Obviously a shb in a group in a party is going to be different than a hb8 at a coffeehouse during the daytime. Clarification on the whole being direct, and giving her attention would be much appreciated, since I have many conflicting sources

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    Default Re: point of confusion: her chasing vs giving attention

    The point of indirect is so that she can perceive, for herself, your interest in her growing naturally. When you are in attraction phase you are doing things that essentially show that you are not interested in her. Until she says or does certain things that "make you just notice her" then you become a little more open with your interest in her. It comes across as more genuine when she sees for herself that your interest has grown from when you first entered the group. This is also considered low risk/low reward.

    Direct is obviously making your intentions apparent. This is considered high risk/high reward because if you pull it off then you have just cut short a lot of things that indirect gamers have to go through to get to the same spot you are in. I think the key with direct is to let her know you are interested, but not won over yet. Of course you can be so direct and say "Hey let's go back to my place and fuck." But that simply means it's a higher risk with an even higher reward if you manage to pull it off.

    They are two sides of the same coin. One is not really better than the other. With indirect it is a lot smoother and feels more natural, but takes time and she could leave or something else could happen to cut short your game. With direct, you cut all that extra stuff out, but your body language, style, and confidence have to be off the charts. Not to mention she may simply just not be interested since you didn't take the time to build attraction. So her interest will be based purely on your looks and how you carry yourself. Not a lot for her to judge you on vs indirect that shows that there's a lot more to you than just looks and confidence. The general guideline is that direct is used for day game while indirect is used for night game. But they are still interchangeable.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: point of confusion: her chasing vs giving attention

    I'm more of a "direct" type of guy.
    Instead of beating around the bush, I'll start flirting right from the moment go!

    I express some degree of interest, without over-doing it.

    It's the FUN & CONFIDENT vibe that I express that causes a girl to become curious about me... thus laying down the foundation of attraction.

    But after I have her interest, I'll back off a bit & use less positive body language... which causes her to pursue me more.

    When a girl is interested in you & you make yourself somewhat of a challenge, THAT'S when you can build rapid attraction & get her to "chase you".



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