Re: Help with a girl who has a bf
Personally, I'm against gaming girls with boyfriends because of my own morals, ethics, and personal experience. It is possible, but be prepared to be there to pick up the pieces or you'll break one of the most important rules - leaving her better than you found her (as seen in my sig ).
So, I've done this twice. F-closed one (A), morals kicked in with the second (B). I've noticed that it works only if the relationship is a little rocky - mainly if it's one sided. Here's how it went down:
She was in a really bad relationship with her man for almost two years. She wasn't sure whether or not they were still together because of all the arguments. He would constantly cheat and she did a few times, too. I simply said, "Wow, he must be the perfect guy if you're putting yourself through this and waiting for him for him this long." Yes, that's a "bf buster," but it's effective only because I had her comfortable around me and established enough rapport. Fair amount of social proof (I sat in between her and B in lecture and flirted with B while ignoring her), too, but that's another topic. Anyway, that got her to say how he's really not all that perfect and tell me more about their problems. I defended him (seems counter productive, but that's where the magic is) and we hooked up not too long after (December) and still have a fling since she's single now. Unfortunately, she looks to me for comfort and is pushing for a relationship. Oh, she's also in a really crappy position in life as of last month and is growing to be an emotional wreck. See why I don't recommend it?
This one was hell to work on because her bf was (is) very clingy and it took a while. Naturally, I defend him and say that it's hard to find guys that are so open with their girls about feelings and all that mushy stuff. I also said stuff about them getting married because he's the perfect husband. I also started acting like him (calling her baby, telling her I love her, etc) and she grew more comfortable with me. Weird, huh? It took months, but eventually she broke up with him and we hooked up. However, thanks to my lovely advice, she went back to him. Now, there's a lot of sexual tension between us and I'm stopping myself from going further even though I had and will have countless opportunities. Won't be too proud of myself if I looked in the mirror
TLDR version - Drop it for both your sakes
Always leave her better than you found her.