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    Default Is it too late for this private dancer?

    Hi there.

    I have quite a problem with a private dancer type of girl. I made many mistakes, that was before I knew the Pandoras Box system. We were flatmates for 2 years with 2 other guys, and I also was in a relationship back then ~

    Well, the problem is, as you may know now, I'm stuck in the friendzone. I read through many of the threads here and also much about "how to text her" since we mostly have contact via texts. She sometimes comes over to watch a movie ( we watched many movies when we were flatmates and she is an actress too) with me, but I never hit on her since she knows I like her and I know she friendzoned me (she told me "hey I don't have feelings for you". I mean sick how fucking stupid I was and ofc the missing experience and the fact I had a gf).

    My question is: Do you guys see any way to turn her around? Since it makes no sense to focus on 1 women (working on a few others at the same time), will it be enough to just try to follow the rules and advices here? And why is she still coming over to watch movies with me if she friendzoned me and kind of knows I gotta crush on her? I do not want a relationship, I just want to fark her. I changed strategy and play it alpha and make myself rare, and also try to keep in mind she is a private dancer, so I kind of know what should work. But do you think it's a waste of time because it's way too late?

    Sorry for the long post and the maybe bad english, I'm from europe ~

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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    Is my question that dumb or does nobody have an advice? D:

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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    My apologies for no one responding.

    Well with friends you always want to focus on the building attraction since you already have comfort. This means becoming more flirty and mysterious. She has to start looking at you in a different way. Make her curious about you and wanting to get closer. There's many posts on building attraction and even through your search engine. It's a complex skill to master. Good luck.
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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    No problem, it's not lik I deserve an answer.

    Thank you very much. So I guess I should try it even if we have been friends? I'm actually working on attraction, so I just continue reading through the forums. Thanks. I just thought maybe it's way too late. Well, maybe it is, but how long do you think this will take? I don't think there is a specific rule, since we have been friends 2 years now, I guess it will take more then a month to reach this state. But thank you very much.

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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    Just one further question. Do you guys have any idea why she would still come over to my appartment and watch movies with me and have at least a little KINO? Ofc I never escalate since it wouldn't work, she stated our friendship pretty clear. Is she doing this just because she thinks we are friends? I mean she somehow has to feel comfortable around me.

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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    And one further question :X Have I been to needy? Texted her yesterday.

    ---cut---
    Her: I have no idea what you meant by "freudian slip" but ok. Anyhow a good night and I'll come back to you because of saturday on friday, ok?

    Me: Saturday is already agred, movie star (the nickname I gave, she is an actress).Freudian slip in a text is the same like in spoken words.

    Her: Depends on when I'm finished with fasting...I don't know by now...Whenever I feel to stop. But I am confident saturday will work. I'll tell you anyhow.

    Me: So fasting forbids you to play pool and watch movies? Damn, I knew that was some weird thing :>

    Her: No it doesn't. But when you stop fasting and your body changes you can happen to be really tired and need rest. But as said.

    Me: Ah ok. So watching a movie is on anyhow Let's do it like this: If I am feeling well after finishing my antibiotics your doing well enough too. And now rest. Sleep well.

    Her: As said, I am confident But just so you know: Absolutely no alcohol.

    Her: At your command, lieutnant (aimed at the "And now rest"

    Me: You don't need no drugs when you're with me, movie star. n8

    Her: gn8
    ---cut---

    Was it too much? Yesterday while typing I thought I was playful and funny, but after waking up this morning I felt like omg I was way too needy, and absolutely not alpha. Is there any damage I need to repair, should I flake out with a excuse like "Oh sry I forgot I got something going on on saturday. Maybe another time". Or should I keep on going? Thanks.

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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    Well we did play pool yesterday. She drove there by bike and let it stay there afterwards, coming to my apartment for watching a movie (thought good, could be a sign for she wants to stay here). Kino etc from my side during the movie, she sometimes accepted it, sometimes pulled away, I kept on going, gave her a break, started again and so on. Of course as a farking AFC I didn't kclose her, I thought it was too early since of our past. She then asked if I bring her home by car, I said if she works on it she doesn't need to go home. She then asked "Did you think I stay here over night?", and in the situation I said "yes" lol, fark me. Immediately afterwards 5 different answers came to my mind which I should have given, typical beginner/AFC I guess. She then went home by foot through the snow, I did not drive her, she wrote me a meaningless text when she got home and that's it (At home. The snow is awesome). She asked me if she should text me when she got home safe and I just said nah, I think you'll be fine.

    Should I freeze her out now (I guess there is enough attraction) or should I act normal since I want to build her from friend to lover? I am not sure on if I should make a date again in a few days or just ignore her til she invests and "punish" her for not staying, although ofc it was my fault since I did not escalate. But on the other hand she is a private dancer.

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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    Hmmm tough call. Try the freeze out for a week. If she doesn't get in contact then you need to initiate.

    I don't have experience with strippers or private dancers. But from what I heard is that they respond very well to deep spiritual conversations. Work on your cold reading skills and exercise that. You may even be able to get her to come over with the idea that you know how to palm read or something. Just an idea.
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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    Thank you batman. But I guess the problem is I do know pretty much about her (past, friends and so on). I also thought of palm reading, but in a funny way (e.g. I can see you have sex with kitchen tools), but since she is a Tester-Denier, she won't respond well to sexual innuendos, that's why I used them as seldem as possible. I don't know if it's right, and I really don't think I misread her, but I guess I will go with the freezeout. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Is it too late for this private dancer?

    Try something more profound if you palm read or use tarot cards or whatever lol.

    Along the lines of "You have an old soul. It has been through much, but no one sees that. Sometimes you feel alone and that no one understands you. Which is why you have this shell around your heart. But underneath you're waiting for someone you can express your love to. Everyday hoping you'll eventually meet that special someone."

    It's cold reading because it can apply to many people, yet sounds unique.
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