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Thread: Social Butterfly flying out of my hands because I didn't make a move

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    Default Social Butterfly flying out of my hands because I didn't make a move

    So here is my story:

    3 months ago I was making out with a drunk HB9 in a party, with her taking most steps. I might have been able to F-Close her that night, but I was also too drunk to make the move. We didn't make any contact for a month, when I 'asked her out' super directly on a date for some drinks -> she rejected because she had some other plans for that night.

    We have some mutual friends so I didn't ask her out or talk to her again, all the contact was her liking my activity on Facebook. I was waiting to bump into her and game her then.

    2 days ago I was out partying with a group of 8 of my male fridends, we bumped into her and came with us, but she is the ex of one guy of our group and my game was really sh1t that night so I didn't make any move, there was just a bit of flirty eye contact between us and some chit chat as if nothing has happened between us. Then she started to drink with one of my mates and they ended up making out in front of me.

    It is obvious that this girl likes me. How to progress from here?

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    Default Re: Social Butterfly flying out of my hands because I didn't make a move

    Come on, I really need your help! Please..

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    Default Re: Social Butterfly flying out of my hands because I didn't make a move

    Hi, my friend Samito. Well, one thing is for sure: this woman doesn't want any relationship. I am still kind of dubious on why she flaked on you, the best I can think is two things:

    1) she thought that a date would be something like you pushing her to be your girlfriend, since dates are more assimilated to "be my girlfriend" type of things.

    2) she was drunk that night and didn't knew what she was doing. Probably not interested in you anymore.

    Giving the fact that she gave you IOI's I would assimilate its option number one. That is confirmed by the fact that she was making out with you couple months ago and know she is making out with one of your friends. She probably was drunk that night also. What I would do is be flirty, but be flirty in a sexual way since you already know that this woman is like this. Do lots of kino. One thing is for sure: she doesn't want any relationship. Hope this helps man. Keep us updated.

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    Default Re: Social Butterfly flying out of my hands because I didn't make a move

    Why would you want a girl who drinks to such an extent? She probably gets drunk and makes out with way more guys than you know. Seriously, you can do better man
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    Default Re: Social Butterfly flying out of my hands because I didn't make a move

    Yes, she probably does make out with lots of guys, so what? She had a humiliating break up almost a year ago and is in hardcore party mode since then, I don't see the problem here. She had only long term relationships before in which she was extremely loyal, now she is in a Testing phase of her life because she still feels cheated.

    The weird thing is that I invited her out to have some drinks, not something romantic which could have made her believe that I want her to be my GF, at least I didn't mean it that way. I mainly want to F-Close her (or make her an F-Buddy) not an exclusive relationship with her.

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    Default Re: Social Butterfly flying out of my hands because I didn't make a move

    If she is in hardcore party mode, then text/call/email/fb her and tell her she is coming out for drinks with you and your friends. >> "Hey. You're coming out with me and my buddies saturday night. We are going to drink, make out, and that's it. Pick me up at 9."

    If she is in hardcore party-mode like you say, you will probably get one of 3 responses:

    R1 - non-committal - "I'm already going to be out, but I'll see you out" << in which case, wait until that night, start texting her and ask where the secret makeout spot is going to be.

    R2 - committal - "" << basically a non-response, but this really means "okay, but I'm going to make you work a bit harder. Ignore working harder and start talking about something completely different like why you like Fruity Pebbles.

    R3 - taken off guard - "huh?" << this is one is where she doesn't know how to respond which means she needs more convincing. So just change the subject temporarily for a few texts and then come back later and say "he, when we are out saturday night, wear something while. i love that." << here you are just assuming she is going to meet you.

    other advice:

    1. don't drink so much that your dick stops working.
    2. don't wait to make moves. you will lose.
    3. by the time you think you are over-thinking it, then you are over-thinking it.
    4. if you do drink with her, get the bartender to water her drinks down by then end of the night so she doesn't do the 2am think where she shoots 5 oz and then lays in bed in a catatonic state.
    - CR

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    Default Re: Social Butterfly flying out of my hands because I didn't make a move

    When dealing with a social butterfly you can't have her think that sex means a lot to you, you have to play it as though it's no big deal when it comes to sex or anything you do. This should be applied to all testers. She's the type of chick you mess around with, have fun with and let things just fall into place. Tease her a lot and banter with her, she wants a guy who isn't desperate and has a set of nuts.
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