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Thread: So....how do I be an asshole?

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    Default So....how do I be an asshole?

    This is a serious thread, despite the title.

    How do I start being meaner to people? In a sense make 'playful' insults/jabs at people I don't know? All these pick-up books have it as practically the #1 cardinal rule, and even work it seems to be necessary. My boss makes jabs all the time, and I think I need to start making them to him (VERY informal workplace btw).

    Thing is, I always picture myself in the shoes of that person, and I remember being a kid being bullied...and I hated all the teasing. Feels pretty mean, even if playful. I feel like I'm doing what I most dread onto others. Insulting people for no reason is like a personal phobia of mine.

    How do I shake this off? Should I shake this off? I like being nice to people... I don't mean "oh ill lick the floors to please you!" way. That's ridiculous. I'm from the Big Apple, so fvuk that! More in this way: I see myself in other people's shoes. Unless its for a dire reason, I would never want to do something that I would hate to experience myself. I like being friendly. I hold doors for people (an art most selfish assholes forget nowadays). I say "Thank you" and "Please". I give directions to strangers, if I can (and feel shitty if I was wrong). Too many people nowadays are too ungrateful, self-assured, and...well...asshole s that I prefer not to join that realm of society.




    ...but I also want to make my boss comfortable around me so I won't get fired from my 1st out-of-college job....and be able to get a girlfriend rather than frat house hookups from drunk chicks who didnt have the sense to know that I'm an overly-emotional putz would be cool...

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    Default Re: So....how do I be an asshole?

    i will give my suggestion,
    you are being nice to others, but are you really being nice to yourself?
    their is some importance to selfishness, its not about being a "bully", its about being assertive, and not being afraid to take "jabs" at other peoples ego's (wich are probably too big anyways)
    you've got to stand up for yourself in this society we live in today, otherwise people will walk all over you.

    learning pua isn't about learning how to be an "asshole" its all about becoming a leader and having the balls to do what you want and not being afraid of hurting other peoples ego's

    you don't have to be an asshole to get girls, but you can't be afraid of hurting other peoples feelings every now and then.

    i highly recomend that you google search "david x pdf" and read the free e-book from david x, he is what a true asshole is, but he has a good lesson about being more assertive and not being afraid to take the initiative and lead. and he also preaches not being afraid to say whats on your mind, and not catering to other peoples feelings, i highly recomend you read it.

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    Default Re: So....how do I be an asshole?

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    i will give my suggestion,
    you are being nice to others, but are you really being nice to yourself?
    their is some importance to selfishness, its not about being a "bully", its about being assertive, and not being afraid to take "jabs" at other peoples ego's (wich are probably too big anyways)
    you've got to stand up for yourself in this society we live in today, otherwise people will walk all over you.
    Other than my prior difficulty in finding a job (which is less me and more a globalized issue), I've never really been 'walked all over' since Junior High, and that was 20vs1. Your advice would of gotten me killed and stabbed. If someone tries to p!ss on me, I'll be sure to give back some. Not really what I'm suggesting...

    My boss is the owner of a company. Not a big one, mind you, but still his ego's pretty high. He likes to take jabs, and likes to receive them (according to a long-time friend of his, anyway). I don't like taking 'jabs' for no reason aka: no one did something to harm me. Also, taking jabs at your boss whom is the sole voice of hiring/firing makes it a more difficult line to cross...

    learning pua isn't about learning how to be an "asshole" its all about becoming a leader and having the balls to do what you want and not being afraid of hurting other peoples ego's
    I've led activites in college without having to resort to being a 'alpha-male' or whatever kids nowadays call this stuff (names confuse me btw). If someone did something stupid, I'd call them on it, but I wouldn't be abusive for no reason. Usually encouragement worked best, anyway.

    you don't have to be an asshole to get girls, but you can't be afraid of hurting other peoples feelings every now and then.

    i highly recomend that you google search "david x pdf" and read the free e-book from david x, he is what a true asshole is, but he has a good lesson about being more assertive and not being afraid to take the initiative and lead. and he also preaches not being afraid to say whats on your mind, and not catering to other peoples feelings, i highly recomend you read it.
    I'll look into it, but I'm not sure if you're getting my meaning, really.

    I don't get the whole 'teasing' aspect. Is it really necessary? Can someone explain how teasing isn't the same as insulting? Because it seems to be the same from my pov, and I need to use it for my job, too.

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    Default Re: So....how do I be an asshole?

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    i will give my suggestion,
    you are being nice to others, but are you really being nice to yourself?
    their is some importance to selfishness, its not about being a "bully", its about being assertive, and not being afraid to take "jabs" at other peoples ego's (wich are probably too big anyways)
    you've got to stand up for yourself in this society we live in today, otherwise people will walk all over you.

    learning pua isn't about learning how to be an "asshole" its all about becoming a leader and having the balls to do what you want and not being afraid of hurting other peoples ego's

    you don't have to be an asshole to get girls, but you can't be afraid of hurting other peoples feelings every now and then.

    i highly recomend that you google search "david x pdf" and read the free e-book from david x, he is what a true asshole is, but he has a good lesson about being more assertive and not being afraid to take the initiative and lead. and he also preaches not being afraid to say whats on your mind, and not catering to other peoples feelings, i highly recomend you read it.
    I'll be honest. I just read two pages, and my head just stopped reading. I'm not that person. I want to say 'I love you' to someone special. I hate games that have stakes...which is why I never gamble. I don't want thousands of women. I don't even have thousands of friends. Just 3 very close friends, and I enjoy that. Do I want to meet up more buds to hang with? Sure! I just moved to an unfamiliar place. But, I'm not in the habit of meeting so many people. Too much work... I'm a happy introvert that just wants to settle down with 1 awesome women. Call her super-friend-with-benefits. Something more than hooking up. That just sounds boring and tiresome. Rather go on a tredmill, and I hate those farking things. Most unnatural exercise equipment in the world.


    Reading more of his stuff....and its just too fracking complicated. Seriously, are most people like this and judgmental? "dont do this, to this!" Damn! /all these head games would drive anyone insane!

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    Default Re: So....how do I be an asshole?

    I don't get the whole 'teasing' aspect. Is it really necessary? Can someone explain how teasing isn't the same as insulting? Because it seems to be the same from my pov, and I need to use it for my job, too.
    teasing is playful.
    insulting is hurtful.

    a tease is usually being sarcastic and playful,
    (like a girl saying "i would die if i met my favorite band"
    to wich i would reply "well then, its probably best that you never see them, it would be a shame if you died sooo young")

    an insult is usually making fun of her for something that is true and serious. (like joking about how much she weighs)

    the difference is all about how it makes her feel.
    a tease makes her feel good/ gets her laughing

    an insult makes her feel bad and want to cry.

    know the difference

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    Default Re: So....how do I be an asshole?

    I'll be honest. I just read two pages, and my head just stopped reading. I'm not that person. I want to say 'I love you' to someone special. I hate games that have stakes...which is why I never gamble.
    keep reading! you have to read the whole 19 page pdf to fully understand davids point.
    getting girls is all about being assertive, and not being afraid to take chances to pursue what you want.

    its not saying you cannot say "i love you" its saying that you should be more reluctant to fall in love. if you truely love a girl, you probably will marry her (you seem like the type who marry's the first girl who falls for you anyways)

    that said, pua isn't for everyone. soo many guys come wanting to get with that one special girl who they've already idolized in their minds. but they are doomed to fail because they have already given her "godlike" status in their minds. when you give a woman more value than you give yourself, she will always see you as being weak. and trust me women want a strong man who will lead them.

    david x has alot of valuable lessons in his e-book,
    if you don't want them, then by all means, stop reading it and go learn how to get girls the hard way (through trial and heartache) but if you are serious about learning how to get girls, start by reading david x's pdf and learn how to not be emotionaly reactive to those around you. learn how to be a leader if you're up for it.

    otherwise, you're waisting my time.

    you decide, do you really want a life change?

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    Default Re: So....how do I be an asshole?

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    keep reading! you have to read the whole 19 page pdf to fully understand davids point.
    getting girls is all about being assertive, and not being afraid to take chances to pursue what you want.

    its not saying you cannot say "i love you" its saying that you should be more reluctant to fall in love. if you truely love a girl, you probably will marry her (you seem like the type who marry's the first girl who falls for you anyways)

    that said, pua isn't for everyone. soo many guys come wanting to get with that one special girl who they've already idolized in their minds. but they are doomed to fail because they have already given her "godlike" status in their minds. when you give a woman more value than you give yourself, she will always see you as being weak. and trust me women want a strong man who will lead them.

    david x has alot of valuable lessons in his e-book,
    if you don't want them, then by all means, stop reading it and go learn how to get girls the hard way (through trial and heartache) but if you are serious about learning how to get girls, start by reading david x's pdf and learn how to not be emotionaly reactive to those around you. learn how to be a leader if you're up for it.

    otherwise, you're waisting my time.

    you decide, do you really want a life change?
    This David X dude really needs to learn subtlety when writing...his intro pages are really whacked when reading the rest of it. Actually sounds like my boss a bit....

    It doesn't really help me in my boss dilemma (boss = king, which is obvious), but the advice is kind of sound for teh ladies.

    He initially mentions to use tricks and headgames and sh1t, but then throws it away for honesty. I like that advice. Kind of awesome, actually. Probably wont work, since I'm not suave by any means, but its much more natural, lol

    As for your post? Naa, I don't have an 'ideal girl' in my head. There's my first (and only) relationship before college, but she was a sarcastic (but funny) prick, and we were more friends that got close during the end. She would be the closest I could think of 'ideal', but it really doesn't come into mind. Dono about marriage anytime soon(too expensive!), but Dont like the idea of having kids when I'm old and lethergic, though.

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    Default Re: So....how do I be an asshole?

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    teasing is playful.
    insulting is hurtful.

    a tease is usually being sarcastic and playful,
    (like a girl saying "i would die if i met my favorite band"
    to wich i would reply "well then, its probably best that you never see them, it would be a shame if you died sooo young")

    an insult is usually making fun of her for something that is true and serious. (like joking about how much she weighs)

    the difference is all about how it makes her feel.
    a tease makes her feel good/ gets her laughing

    an insult makes her feel bad and want to cry.

    know the difference
    That's cool. That's not what is used in those books. Its more like "Where did you get that dress? INSERT CRAPPY STORE?" Or similar....kind of mean-spirited. Think they call it negs or something else that sounds like eggs.

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    Default Re: So....how do I be an asshole?

    i think what you really need is to get some real live experience talking to girls and flirting with them. as i've said many times before, social confidence comes from social experience. the more girls you flirt with, the better you will get at flirting. it just takes time and practice to get good at.

    i'm glad you finished reading david x and i hope you remember what he had to say.

    as for negs, they are only to use on the hottest, most stuck up girls you meet (they are to be used when you have to get passed a girls ego to game her) they are intended to lower her percieved value of herself, and they should be used sparingly.

    negs should be like a "backhanded complament" in that they too should be like teasing in that they should be more playful than hurtful.
    something like " nice shoes!, my grandma has a pair just like them!" (with enthusiasm)
    it just does a small amount of damage to the girls ego without really hurting her feelings too much.


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