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    Default Need an epic game plan...

    Hey guys! As I'm getting used to the forums I thought maybe the pros of all pros can give me some advice and possibly a game plan.

    All right, this may be a long read so I'd appreciate anyone who reads it and make comments & suggestions accordingly.

    Target: HB9 (Shorty, blonde, cute face, killer moves, killer looks and gosh those curves )
    We've been friends with each other since 2012, late August. (which makes around 7.5 months - a lot i guess - )
    Thanks to AFC me she put me friendzone easily. We hung out with each other in many places, parties, concerts, restaurants, etc. But now I realize, (thanks to this awesome community who keeps teaching and teaching) I've been too needy, demanding, pushy and even suffocating. I was the one who was desperate, texting her all the time, interrogating her with my boring questions, force her into meeting me by constantly pushing her even though she might have been busy. She was amazingly good to me. (So I was thinking.) We were talking a lot, exchanging ideas, stories, simply having a great time. (but mostly over texts) We were talking about anything you can imagine. By 'anything' I mean, yes, her boyfriends, relationship issues. As you can see, they were total AFC + friendzone -oh that combination- days. When we first met I did not have any intention of any emotional or sexual connection with her. I just wanted to be friends, which helped me putting her in the friendzone easier.

    But now things have changed. I decided I want her so bad which made me a little desperate because no matter how hard I try, I wasn't getting any flirtatious response. So I thought she was the spoiled one and I was too good for her. But as I'm learning the game I also started to realize that my actions were just wrong. So, it's the time to pull a 180 degree turnaround and get this girl. With my new skillset and with an awesome community beside me, I want to change the situation I am in. I read A LOT guidelines about "getting out of her friendzone" which basically suggest what ever PUA will suggest: Be alpha, get off her back, challenge her, tease her, stop talking about her boyfriends, be flirtatious, make her chase you, etc.
    At start, these things were hard to do because I had issues dealing with the fact that I might lose her interest somehow and eventually lose her completely. However, I am now ready to take the risk of completely losing her no matter what happens. So I started forcing myself out of her friendzone. She had never initialized conversations before, but not now. We have never got flirtatious before, but that changed. Along the way I encountered with a lot of Sh1t Tests which I miserably failed dodging them and putting myself back in her friendzone. So now my fellow teachers, leaders, friends I need your help. I need every piece of advice. I want to get out of her friendzone completely, seal this deal and never look back.

    I thought I might have a perfect environment to settle this...
    Way back earlier we agreed to go to a Rihanna concert and bought our tickets. Although, we won't be alone. She will bring her 2 girl best friends and another dude (not her boyfriend nor potential boyfriend, as she told) that I never met. (FYI: I am yet to see these 3 people's faces. I'm completely unknown to them.) We will take a 5 hour bus ride to concert, dance and sing our souls out and return back separately. So my mentors, I need a gameplan for this concert to seal this deal! I'm desperately in need of a game plan which is stripped to its bones. I know I might be asking a lot, but before completely erasing this girl off my mind, I want to take this last shot...

    Please help the rookie PUA in need...

    Thanks, Wolf.
    It's not about who I was or who I'm going to become.

    It's about who I am. Do it right here, right now.

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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    Come on guys I really need your help here.

    Lemme add another detail about her. According to my observations and Pandora's Box she is a Seductress. The combination of Tester, Justifier and Realist. She keeps picking and dropping boyfriends a month apart, she is never shy talking about sex and emotions but she is always keeping her career one step ahead of her relationships.

    Thanks in advance, Wolf.
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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    Keep in mind that it takes time for people to respond for threads so keep waiting.

    So, I have to say I like the fact you understand your flaws with girls and you are eager to fix them, I was the same way and I fixed them. Before anything answer these for me.

    Do you see this girl often (Going out a lot)?

    How do you keep this girl entertained?

    Has anything intimate happend between the two?
    ablindman's new account, pm me if you need help.

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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    first off. .. i'm no pro...like you i'm just starting out !
    But what I would do is go to that concert ofcourse and rly don't give a shit about that cute blond but focus more on her friends...start with the male friend, become best buds ( only that evening if you don't want to in the long run) and after that start to game her two friends....girls and jealousy aren't friends


    good luck keep us posted

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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    + if you really liek this girl...forget unless you are a pro
    if you really want to be a PUA then you have to start now ! So forget that chick have a good time but our goal is to game other chicks aswell....teh world is full HBs..... explore before you get the ball and chain hahaha

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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    lolbroek I totally disagree with you, if you're stuck in a situation, instead of leaving it you try to fix it. If it doesn't work out you learn from your mistakes. If you just move on and move on and move on. You won't learn anything at all.


    The point in PUA isn't only to meet girls. Like I said in a past post. Some want to meet girls, others want to get out of their Social insecurities, other meet new people and even some want to stop feeling like whimps hance AFC's. Basicly Pick up is discovering a brand new you. Because women believe it or not is the biggest fear in a man. A man who doesn't understand a women will be used and mistreated mentally.

    Why do you think girls use guys to buy them things. Please don't recklessly answer to people's thread if you don't know what you speak of, thanks.
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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    Quote Originally Posted by OhSnap View Post
    Do you see this girl often (Going out a lot)?

    How do you keep this girl entertained?

    Has anything intimate happend between the two?
    Yes we go out a lot. Sometimes just the two of us. Sometimes with her friends or my friends.

    She can be entertained pretty easily. She is much of a party girl but has a soft side too. One time I took her to a piano concert (couldn't accomplish intimacy apparently), she said she loves these kinds of stuff and she enjoyed it too much. She's into many kinds of sports too, but in essence she is a party girl, likes to dance wild, have fun all night but she knows her limits. She doesn't drink to lose her consciousness.

    As for the intimacy issue: NO. We didn't go any further than some hugging and kiss on the cheek, all friend stuff but we sometimes got flirtatious over the texts which eventually got farked with couple Sh1t Tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by lolbroek View Post
    + if you really liek this girl...forget unless you are a pro
    if you really want to be a PUA then you have to start now ! So forget that chick have a good time but our goal is to game other chicks aswell....teh world is full HBs..... explore before you get the ball and chain hahaha
    I also have to disagree, about this girl at least. She is the only obstacle in front of me to stepping into a brand new version of myself. I don't care if I get this girl or not. I just want to play my best game without thinking of the consequences. Just moving on will not help me getting her out of my mind.
    It's not about who I was or who I'm going to become.

    It's about who I am. Do it right here, right now.

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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    It is true...I have much to learn.
    But my advice can only come from situations that I have encountered...from my own perspective ...my own feelings...As I do not have much experience...yet

    my reply was my own 2 cents...as I clearly stated in my previous post that I'm no expert
    Wolf has to choose for himself what advice he will take into consideration.

    So my friend before telling people not to recklessly answer questions .....start with yourself...I don't wish to offend you in anyway, thanks

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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    Quote Originally Posted by lolbroek View Post
    So my friend before telling people not to recklessly answer questions .....start with yourself...I don't wish to offend you in anyway, thanks
    I know, my friend, I know. I have to improve A LOT. Whatever I did with this girl, because of my inexperience and AFCness, led me to her friendzone, inevitably. I want to change, I am going to change.

    But I feel like I need to erase or get together with this girl in order to create a new me. And to erase by not just forcing myself to stop thinking about her. I also don't want to go and say "hey I like you, blablabla" stuff. I just want to go out there, do my best and face the results either it's good or bad.
    It's not about who I was or who I'm going to become.

    It's about who I am. Do it right here, right now.

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    Default Re: Need an epic game plan...

    Wolf my post was intended for Ohsnap
    But as I can see...we have different goals for now. So I suggest you might follow up on Ohsnap 's council and maybe others...if they chose to reply
    But do keep us posted how things will/have turned out

    ciao


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