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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Game is not "underhanded tactics." It's the application of natural principles that most people develop as they grow up. Unfortunately, due to the rapidly changing environment we live in, a large subsection of the population has failed to develop these tools on their own. In response to this development, people started developing "game," which is just teaching these natural principles to people who failed to develop them on their own.

    If you think "game" is immoral, it likely stems from two limiting beliefs. The first belief is that there is something unnatural about game because it has to be taught. The problem with this belief is that most people apply the rudimentary knowledge of game without ever studying it or being taught it. Only those people who, through improper socialization, don't have these skills need to learn them.

    The second limiting belief is more troubling and I believe you should work on it. Based on your posts (this one and the one on negging) I would venture a guess that you believe yourself to be superior to women and as a result fail to give them the proper credit they deserve. Women have free will just like men and nothing you do is going to remove that free will (short of drugging them and other illicit means). Give women more credit, the average woman has as much, if not more, game then the best PUA.
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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Yes, I am trying to unlearn/remove my limiting beliefs that get in the way. Inner game.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    You have to remember that these girls at a club will meet guys and they will pick a guy or guys that they want to sleep with.

    Being a PUA just gets you added on to the list of those who she will consider. If you get better at it you will be the one she selects.

    You aren't getting her to do anything against her free will as Duke explained earlier in this thread.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Well, I feel that I am getting her to do something irrational. We are playing with a girl's emotions to override her logic/rationality.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    I don't think anybody here can get you to change your outlook about females. You have to do that yourself IF that's what you truly want to do.

    Go out to a club and watch girls walk out with guys. It's what the girl wants to do. Nobody can FORCE her to do that.

    Too bad that you are the one that will be missing out.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    I don't understand why everyone is so taken back by this? Makes sense to me...

    Anyway... Take a step back.. And look at how wild animals live. The males in pretty much every species on the planet aims to reproduce as much as possible throughout his life. We are no different.

    The only difference is we as humans communicate on a much higher level.. Therefore attracting a mate isn't simply kicking the ass of the other suitors. (that would make things a lot harder so be thankful)

    We have the ability to match wits with both our rival suitors and the potential mate. If you were perhaps... To get good at this, your would have a higher success rate in winning these "battles".

    That my friend is what PUA is. You are learning to be a better suitor. That is all.

    On the other hand... Women WANT to be gamed... They WANT to flirt, THEY WANT TO FARK. They are sexual creatures... Same as males. Don't feel bad for a second about it.

    The only reason that I would find it morally wrong is if you lie to sleep with them. Just make sure your game is 100 percent honest and you have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Hope this helped. Game on.
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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Batman, Sidewinder, Duke S.Fla, and linking are right in their assessment of its only wrong or underhanded if you think it is. But to take it a step further donít women use underhanded tactics with men in getting them to chase them, take them to dinner with no intentions of having relations with them but to just satisfy that part of their life and then seeking out another man who will satisfy them sexually all the while never being up front about it until the man calls them out. If a womanís body is something precious and to be cherished (AFC) so isnít a man also? And if so why do women seek Badboys for fulfillment. Think about it!

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Well that's a sucky way to look at it lol.

    This is how I view it:

    Women are human. With flaws and all. But that is forgotten when we see an attractive one and assume she is to be cherished like a queen. Solely based on her looks. That seems a bit messed up to me.

    She's not perfect and should not be treated as such. That doesn't mean she has to be treated like crap either. It just means that you should see what kind of person she is first before treating her really well. She should get basic respect like everyone else you encounter in your life. Nothing more. Until she shows you what kind of person she is.

    Lieing is for weak. It bluntly says that you don't like yourself if you feel you have to lie to a woman. Pickup is a tool. Just depends on whose using it.

    Pickup is about knowing how to naturally portray yourself to a woman so as to not come off as creepy, needy, or aggressive or whatever. Because when she rejects you, she's not really rejecting you, but your approach. She has no idea what kind of person you are. Pickup helps present yourself to her in the most natural way.

    You may be absolutely non-needy, but due to your nervousness around her you portray yourself to her as needy. Which would be a false impression on her part. And that's not her fault.

    Besides, I've never met a woman who was mad that I used some techniques on them. Some of them actually thanked me because they get so many creepy weirdos that it was refreshing to meet someone interesting.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    If you think gaming is wrong then don't do it. Or at least apply from it what you are morally comfortable with.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    I want to overcome my moral hurdles with your help.


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