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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Why don't you go out and be 'sincere' with women......let me know how much fun it is farking your hand every night

    Linking x

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamhere View Post
    We all know that ultimate goal of the whole game is to get into a girl's pants. Do you think it is moral?
    Oh for Fuck's sake man, you're not getting it. The ultimate goal of pick-up is different depending on who you talk to. I view pick-up as a tool, a method of self-improvement to become the best and most desirable version of myself I can be.

    There are those of us who long to sleep with loads of women but there are also those of us who turned to pick-up because we wanted to find a loving long-term relationships and keep them. Pick-up is just a tool.

    It's like fire, you can use it to burn down a house or to cook your dinner. Either way you wouldn't say that the fire itself is immoral.

    Now if you still find it immoral then quit and miss out on life.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Either way you wouldn't say that the fire itself is immoral.
    I DISAGREE IT WANTS TO KEEP BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE EVEN THOUGH IT KNOWS IT SHOULDN'T the rest is valid

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamhere View Post
    Why can't we speak frankly and sincerely when we pick up girls? Why do we have to play game? I feel that we are manipulating/enslaving a girl when we game her.
    Sorry to double post but this annoyed me. You're simply not listening to what people are saying. So in the vain hope I will try one more time...

    GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD!

    You cannot make a girl do anything that she is not willing to do!

    Pick-up is not voodoo or magic, it's enhanced social skills. That's it. Most PUA's are open and honest with women about their intentions. 'The game' as you refer to it is human interaction. You have to play it because that is the way our society has developed! We don't beat each other with sticks to find a mate like the animals, we select partners based on our interactions, conversations and looks (that is a fact!).

    Pick-up is about learning how those interactions work, so when you find a girl you like you don't look socially retarded and blow any chances you have by being needy, lonely, aggressive, vulgar or any of the other reasons that women reject an approach.

    All your doing is advertising yourself in your best possible form, not using jedi powers to mind fark them.

    PLEASE GET IT.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Quote Originally Posted by hyp View Post
    Either way you wouldn't say that the fire itself is immoral.
    I DISAGREE IT WANTS TO KEEP BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE EVEN THOUGH IT KNOWS IT SHOULDN'T the rest is valid
    nope fire doesn't have any emotional or intellectual capacity, it simply acts according to the laws of physics. It's a thing, and therefore cannot be immoral as it doesn't make conscious decisions

    wow I'm deep

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    but then if it's a thing, everything down to the core is made up of atoms, so who's to say it is not immoral? :P

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Yes it is immoral,dirty and everything you can think of. Why?
    These are words or best said as limiters which are created by humans to put a label on something. Do animals care about such things? Do they stop mating just because they are in the middle of the city and people are watching them? No. That is because sex is natural and what's stopping you from getting is are these limiters that people have created for you. It is socially accepted that you can't have sex in the middle of the city like an animal because it is considered as shameful and immoral .
    Here's another example. You've watched National Geographic or Discovery or whatever it is which shows you many things around the world. Let's take the people who still live in huts in these poor uncivilized countries. They walk around butt naked and with their breasts hanging but why? Because there was nobody there to tell them they can't do it. Do you see people in your city walking around like that? I don't see it in mine and I can bet that the police is going to get them if they do that.(Laws)
    Do you see it now? These are the things that are getting in the way of the natural and is making you form your own opinion because of the intelligence that we possess which doesn't mean is right or wrong.
    Lets take another example. 2 people(Male and Female) meet and they both are NOT taught our ways but instead the opposite...like mating in front of many people would be considered right. They are attracted to each other and what do they do? I think you know the answer. That is again because there was nobody there to tell them it is immoral or wrong.
    That is why we chose to let nature do it's work but with a little help of course. Nobody's raping anyone and nobody's forcing anything(which is also taught to us for being wrong).

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Have we beat this horse dead enough it isn't morality it is survival and human nature, the way you treat everyone is the issue, so you can still have a clear moral plate so long as you are gaming in an ethical manor. Be clear about what you want, don't lie, do not intentionally hurt anyone and if you do make it right if possible.

    Let me sum up the whole morality issue for everyone.

    1 if you don't someone else will
    2. You are the ONLY person who can dictate what YOU feel is right or wrong.
    3. You are the person who has to live with YOUR own actions, decisions and feelings, trust me I am not going to loose any sleep over ones self making an a$$ of themselves. Personally if someone treats a good woman poorly I am glad to take them away.

    So the morality of game is just that, play with integrity, and remember KARMA IS A B----
    Learn to be a better person not a better player.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamhere View Post
    I grew up in a different environment where sex was tabooed. To me, it is as if a girl's body is something very special and precious and the whole game is to use underhanded tactics to manipulate a girl into giving her body to you.
    Please tell me how gameing a girl is manipulation? When we game girls we are showing them our best self. That is not manipulation it is actually more honest than an AFC trying to show their personality to a chick they approach. They can't show it because they are too nervous to show themselves. So would you consider that manipulation? If being a PUA is then being an AFC is moreso because PUAs can show who they are in a better manner than AFCs can.
    Any of you guys in the Dayton Oh area let me know and we will sarge.

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    Default Re: Gaming girls-moral issue

    As my tag line states learn to be a better person not a better player he hits it pretty direct above. You are showing genuine interest, only pua helps you display that in a confident manor. It isn't about slide a hand and mind rape it is about being a confident self aware person just in doing that alone you become more desireable ten fold.

    If you are doing things right you should never cross over the line of morality, in fact you shouldn't even come close. Being a pua is just learning to be the best you, if it feels like you are trying to be someone you aren't then you need to recalibrate your style to reflect your best self.
    Learn to be a better person not a better player.


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