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    Question Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    I am a university student and a while ago I hit the campus pub one night and there was a group of of HB6 and 7's with one HB9. I approached, negged HB9 (my target) and pretty much ignored her while conversing and flirting with her friend. HB9 made no attempts to jump in or qualify herself and later on when I talked with her she thought I was only interested in her friend and tried to set me up with said friend and give me friends number. After that I tried to make her jealous by hanging out and dancing with other HB8's/9's at the pub, but she left without saying goodbye. A few weeks later when the new semester started we ended up in the same study group, which gave me the perfect excuse to get her phone number, email and facebook.

    So when I would talk to her, text her or chat with her on Facebook I would try to flirt and escalate to show her I was a confident, sexual guy but she always changed the subject right away to whatever we were studying. I suggested we study alone but she always insisted on other people coming or it being somewhere public like the library if it was just the 2 of us. Whenever I tried to do Kino she would get tense or pull away and not really let me touch her. And I was confused because whenever I would DHV she would give IOD's. Also when I tried to get her to qualify herself she didn't even acknowledge it or try to. I flirted with lots of other girls to show her she wasn't the only one and she didn't bat an eye and again tried to set me up with one of the girls I had flirted with. Finally I just went for it and said that a chain restaurant I knew we both liked was opening near campus and we should go on a date there, but she gave a LJBF response. I had no desire to just be her friend and I said that I wanted more and don't believe in true man/woman friendships.

    I decided to freeze her out. I didn't text or email or initiate chats, I joined a different study group and made sure she saw me having fun with and being around lots of other girls. Today after 3 weeks passed with no contact from her I texted her using one of the reengaging texts ("Hey ___. Me and a bunch of friends were going to ___. I'm considering inviting you but only if you promise to be bucket loads of fun." ) from another thread here. After about 30 mins she texted back "Um, who is this?" Turns out she deleted my number after I froze her out and I also saw she deleted me on Facebook. When I told her who it was she responded with this this about 10 minutes ago:

    "You say you are interested in me. But you play games and I don't like games. When a guy is interested in me I expect him to show interest. On the night we met you ignored me and hit on one of my friends (whom you didn't even like, which is a mean thing in itself) When you insulted me with a back-handed compliment I thought it made you look insecure. You repeatedly brought up sex and innuendo without any build up even though I showed no interest. I barely knew you and you kept touching my legs/knees/hair even though you saw how uncomfortable I was. I don't mind touching but not from some guy I barely know. You ignoring me, trying to make me jealous with other girls, acting like a "player" and bragging to make yourself seem better is is immature. I have high enough self esteem that if a guy doesn't express interest I am not going to make a fool of myself and throw myself at him like a jealous teenager. If he doesn't show interest I will move onto a guy that does. Also I don't need to qualify or justify myself as a person just to you. I barely know you. Either you like me or you don't. I don't mind if we study together but beyond that it's not happening right now"

    I have never been called out like this and have NO idea how to respond. I don't know what I can do to salvage this or if I even still have a chance. I don't want to come across as AFC. Any help would be very much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    "You say you are interested in me. But you play games and I don't like games. When a guy is interested in me I expect him to show interest. On the night we met you ignored me and hit on one of my friends (whom you didn't even like, which is a mean thing in itself) When you insulted me with a back-handed compliment I thought it made you look insecure. You repeatedly brought up sex and innuendo without any build up even though I showed no interest. I barely knew you and you kept touching my legs/knees/hair even though you saw how uncomfortable I was. I don't mind touching but not from some guy I barely know. You ignoring me, trying to make me jealous with other girls, acting like a "player" and bragging to make yourself seem better is is immature. I have high enough self esteem that if a guy doesn't express interest I am not going to make a fool of myself and throw myself at him like a jealous teenager. If he doesn't show interest I will move onto a guy that does. Also I don't need to qualify or justify myself as a person just to you. I barely know you. Either you like me or you don't. I don't mind if we study together but beyond that it's not happening right now"
    rofl she said everything i was thinking, you gave off a player vibe in the beginning, and then it's not hard to see that you're giving it off even more talking to other ladies in front of her, if you toned everything down a bit, sounds like she wants something long term as she wants lots of comfort first

    I don't mind if we study together but beyond that it's not happening right now

    i'm not offering advice on what to respond with, but just to make sure you see where you went wrong, everything is subjective with women, and this one sounds like quality, hence her screening on u GL

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    Oh my, TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!! She's a fucking PUA dude, I'm in love with her. Also, she seems a super high quality girl, she told you everything you need to know to engage her in the future.

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    Quote Originally Posted by hyp View Post
    "You say you are interested in me. But you play games and I don't like games. When a guy is interested in me I expect him to show interest. On the night we met you ignored me and hit on one of my friends (whom you didn't even like, which is a mean thing in itself) When you insulted me with a back-handed compliment I thought it made you look insecure. You repeatedly brought up sex and innuendo without any build up even though I showed no interest. I barely knew you and you kept touching my legs/knees/hair even though you saw how uncomfortable I was. I don't mind touching but not from some guy I barely know. You ignoring me, trying to make me jealous with other girls, acting like a "player" and bragging to make yourself seem better is is immature. I have high enough self esteem that if a guy doesn't express interest I am not going to make a fool of myself and throw myself at him like a jealous teenager. If he doesn't show interest I will move onto a guy that does. Also I don't need to qualify or justify myself as a person just to you. I barely know you. Either you like me or you don't. I don't mind if we study together but beyond that it's not happening right now"
    rofl she said everything i was thinking, you gave off a player vibe in the beginning, and then it's not hard to see that you're giving it off even more talking to other ladies in front of her, if you toned everything down a bit, sounds like she wants something long term as she wants lots of comfort first

    I don't mind if we study together but beyond that it's not happening right now

    i'm not offering advice on what to respond with, but just to make sure you see where you went wrong, everything is subjective with women, and this one sounds like quality, hence her screening on u GL

    The thing she describes herself as high quality and respectable but if the OP was to take a different manner and ran it differently, she wouldve probably been responsive and totally "dismissed" all her "stand points" of value and how she wont lower herself.

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    Re-calibrate.

    The only card you can play is to study together. Then slowly escalate from there.

    She left this door open to you. She could have completely shut you out but she chose not to do that. After all you are in a different study group and she has no need to see you.

    Build social proof by having a guy buddy or two drop by your study session or text you to invite you out for a night of fun or just to hang out. Make yourself look good and then eventually invite her to tag along. She reacts negatively when you flirt with girls and pulls herself back. Trying to set you up with her friends is a sh1t test so don't bite on that.

    If you do the AFC thing and apologize she will leave you in her dust. Don't apologize just tell her that you are cool with studying together. It makes you look confident and you aren't dependent on a romantic outcome with her.

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    Thanks for the replies everyone. She is doing her Master's degree and I am fast tracking my Bachelors degree which is why we have school though the summer. I have options with other girls, but she is the first girl that I have tried EVERY PUA trick I know on and still not had it work at all. I did reply to her text: "I'll see you at study group. Still on ____ day/time at ____ location right?" Didn't apologize or be AFC.

    She responded twice. First text was "Yes. Same time and place. See you there." Followed a few minutes later by: (just to be up front and let you know because I don't want to lead you on, I am interested in studying as friends ONLY. I said I wouldn't mind studying with you because I am not the queen or boss of the study group and I don't want to be a whiny bitch if you join again. Everyone in the group likes you. I don't know if you are one of those "player" guys who thinks they have a shot with all women no matter what the situation, no matter if she is not single, or even after she has stated she has no interest in going out on a date. So us studying alone together, hanging out outside of study group or emailing/texting about anything other than school related stuff is out of the question. Just wanted to make that clear because I don't want to be a tease or lead you on. See you on ____ day."

    So after the first text I thought I had an in but now with her second I am unsure again. She has blocked me on Facebook so I can't search her profile or see her posts at all. Then to add to my confusion not long after she texted I went to get some take out on my way home from the gym and while I was paying for my food I saw her inside the restaurant (she didn't see me) She was sitting beside another guy, they were holding hands and sharing a dessert and feeding each other/eating off each others forks. Now I am really unsure about things with her and weather or not I have a shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dj Chill View Post
    The thing she describes herself as high quality and respectable but if the OP was to take a different manner and ran it differently, she wouldve probably been responsive and totally "dismissed" all her "stand points" of value and how she wont lower herself.
    Interesting. For future reference if I meet another girl like her how should I run it differently to be successful Thank-you.
    Last edited by BHayden; 05-18-2013 at 05:04 PM. Reason: spelling/grammar

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    Moral of the story, don't use negs, forced pre selection, and build comfort for girls that seem High quality, that you may see often or if things go wrong will get to you.

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    I don't think it's over at all.

    I actually think she's running a sh1t test. The PUA tricks are working. She has one quality of her own though. She is stating preselection. She is telling you pretty much that you aren't good enough for her.

    Instead of getting offended, admire that quality. She seems like a b1tch anyways (any girl who has to say they are high quality, isn't), and yet if I wanted to continue conversation with her I'd say, "I appreciate the honesty, never meant to make you feel any less of a person than you are. Looking forward to ___(studying or whatever)__, was never expecting anything more. You're a sweet girl (girl's name)."

    Apologizing for the outcome is not AFC at all. Apologizing for the action is.

    Next line restates your "sole intention" and says she wasted her time texting you that whole autobiography. (DHV)

    Last line just throws her off. Lol she may even ask if your serious afterwards. Did it once and worked surprisingly well! Great to break the negative tension.

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    how is that running a sh1t test, he comes off as a massive player to a high quality girl, she's made it quite clear she doesn't want a player

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    Default Re: Freezing her our failed. How do I respond to this text?

    Agreed this isn't a shit test, this is her seeing straight through his tactics and calling him on it. Fair play to her.

    Personally I don't subscribe to the "ignore the girl you like" theory... I don't like to waste time, I go gor the one I'm interested in and if it fails I move on ha.


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