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Thread: I keep falling back into AA

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    Default I keep falling back into AA

    I have not been technical gaming too long.

    Let me just say thank God I found you guys when I did.

    What is killing me is every time I get past AA I have an amazing time and the girls love it, I love it, everyone is really happy. It's really farking amazing what some of you guys have showed me just by reading all your experiences and advice and watching videos, it's all very tangible when I'm in the middle of it. That's one thing that impresses me the most is how tangible the tactics all of you use. I could tell an immediate difference in how women look at me by my body language alone. great stuff.

    Then somehow I fall back into it. I feel like after I don't make one approach (that I coulda shoulda woulda) then all my work unravels and I fall back into the same exact spot I was initally in. - regarding specifically AA, not my overall game

    It even gets worse sometimes I will even get an IOI or AI and not go up and I'm literally talking to myself like
    "why aren't you talking to this girl dude wtf"

    I realize I'm not gonna be on point everyday but I really need some more consistency my AA is killing me.

    AA is a hella sticking point for me. Every time I get past it it's super awesome and feels amazing.

    edit: is this really because my inner game is that farked up?
    .-* WWWEEE *-.

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    Default Re: I keep falling back into AA

    In short the best answer is just to keep on practicing. I haven't been into pickup for that long, but I managed to get over AA fairly quickly because i would go out alone. Granted, I was never bad with women to begin with. I'm still not completely over it. I still have the occasional moment when I bitch out and over think. But hell don't sleep on your progress. I'm a lot better now then I was 3 months ago. I recommend you start approaching in a new manner. If I see a woman I try to go immediately before my brain kicks in and attempts to screw me over. This is one of the best ways to combat AA. Easier said than done though.

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    Default Re: I keep falling back into AA

    Most of the techniques to get over AA are easier said than done, to be honest. It affects everyone, not just guys but girls too, believe it or not. I have made a post called "The art of conversation" in which are some exercises used to develope your conversational skill if it's non-existant, But they challenges also work nicely to get you into an approach swing.

    Personally I find that once I've made my first approach of the day I can just keep at it then. I just make approach after approach. It's the first one that's the hardest.

    I was with a friend the other day that I am coaching, and he hit the biggest AA wall I've ever seen, He wouldn't even approach if I came with him. So I got a little fed up with it as we couldn't make progress on sculpting his approaches if he wasn't making any. He said he was scared of the awkward situation he'd be throwing himself into. So, I told him "throw yourself into an awkward situation or I'll throw you into one. I'm gonna point out women and you're going to approach them, if you don't I'm going to shout in the middle of this busy shopping center "this guy needs a girlfriend and he's kindof desperate, any takers?" His eyes widened because he knew I would. I pointed to a girl and he ran to catch up to her. He had forgotten his AA. I know my methods were a little harsh, but it took about five minutes for him to forget about my promise and just naturally approach women.

    Sometimes when I have AA I make stupid little challenges;

    Escalator game - Go to a shopping center with escalators and game during the time you're riding it. Open and escalate the conversation, buit it has to end when you step off.

    Awkward pickup - Take every rule you know about PUA, however relavent, and make approaches that break those rules, make it as awkward as possible. I find it fun to see how far it can go while being so awkward and it can be hilarious. And if the awkward one goes well then imagine how well the smooth one's gonna go.

    Random questions - Ask the most bizarre question you can think of. "Have you ever found a pheasant in a drain pipe and taken his whiskey?" See how people react to something so completely bizarre.

    These little games remind you to have fun while you're out approaching, and if you're doing it to have fun as opposed to get a close, it makes it much easier. it's all a matter of perspective.
    Why become someone else when you can become a natural?

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    Default Re: I keep falling back into AA

    It sounds as if having everything having to go right all the time is a big emphasis for you. In fact, it's typically a big emphasis for everyone. One of the great things about the game is that it is so deeply psychological without it being completely obvious. Learning and performing these steps rewires your brain to a healthier level of self-esteem as your rewarded for your efforts; it's recognizing those efforts that can be the problem.

    Eventually, if your rewarded with success without fully acquiring the mental skill to discriminate negatives and positives, your brain will punish you for inconsistency. This might be where your problem comes in. Your inexperience with the game should really put you at a level where your only getting a few numbers here and there (for example). Instead, your finding success but are unsure of how you got it. So when you don't make that approach your wondering why you could before and why you don't now. Sometimes it might just not be very opportunistic, you can feel it, but don't want to believe it. Thus your brain is questioning your inconsistency, making it difficult to pinpoint your issue.

    "Learning a little can be a dangerous thing." Instead of approaching in an effort to make a new gf, approach in an effort to simply build this individual skill. Once that's accomplished than you can go on to work on escalation, or things of that sort, and won't have to think about AA anymore.

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    Default Re: I keep falling back into AA

    Mate I always do two or three approaches to warm up before approaching those girls that I really like. Try to go out and practice alone. You will never get over AA if you always go out with a friend or a coach. Always push yourself to approach those super hot girls who scare you. Prove yourself that you can approach anybody anywhere and you don't care who is around you and what people think about you.

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    Default Re: I keep falling back into AA

    So far I haven't been able to get past AA. Once I do there will probably be no turning back though. For me part of it is finding the right venue with the right atmosphere. Where I live it's mostly just neighborhood bars with two women out together so it's often a case of bad logistics. It doesn't help that I have to sarge solo because I have no wing. I know I'm making excuses but I will eventually just do it when I feel I have the right opportunities. I will probably just start to scope out places and leave if it's not to my liking. For now though I'm just trying to get in the habit of going out every weekend(and on Wednesday nights too)and not be too hard on myself. Eventually I'll get there.

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    Default Re: I keep falling back into AA

    With AA the trick is building up your confidence. With me, I found that talking to random people on the street with innocent questions helped me get comfortable with talking to strangers. Once I was past that, approach women was far less intimidating. Just think, what scares you about it precisely and then deal with that problem. Try to break it down as much as possible.

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    Default Re: I keep falling back into AA

    AA will always resurface without the right inner game, and practice. It is important to deal with your inner game completely and fully. it is also important to practice game as much as possible.

    Some specific methods for dealing with AA through inner game and outer game practices are as follows:

    1.) Hypnosis. I have a hypnosis track on my site that I just made that I think youd love. Hypnotica also has some great tracks (though they are expensive).

    2.) observing your thought patterns when you think about approaching women and reframing them

    3.) Building an easy indrect routine that you feel comfortable with, and rehearsing it so that it feels easy and natural.

    4.) Smiling and saying hi to everyone you pass throughout the day

    5.) Talking to everyone and socializing literally as much as you can, not just with high value women, but with everyone. If you are going out to game, start by just talking to the easy people first. This will get you into social mode. The more you stay in social mode in life the easier it will be for you.

    6.) Taking workshops such as the ones myself and other PUA's offer will help too, as these are more intensive, and often one is only as good as ones mentors.

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    Default Re: I keep falling back into AA

    one word STATESHIFT



    please help me out with my problem


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