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    Thumbs down Help! Cat string theory back at me!

    So instead of writing everything it happened, I'll just write the full routine I had and what went wrong. We went to watch a movie, so this is before going in the theatre room.
    For the Opener I had the High Art Opener (where you draw a crappy picture of her and write "Semi- pretty girl 24/06/13") after that I did a kino move called the spin kino test where I ask her to put her hand facing mine then I grab hers and ask her to do a little spin and then hand throw (to apply some cat string.)
    After it I went with some questions trying to make herself increase her value. the question was what are 3 things that would make me want to know you better? and her response was "I dont know, dont ask me that" then I neg her some and after it we went in to the theatre.
    During the movie she was being very touchy, she puted her head on my shoulders plenty of times, she grabbed my hand(and I threw it away sometimes to create some sexual tension and cat string), and in general very flirty.
    So now, after the movie, we came out, and I did the kino test(by mystery) where you touch her shoulder and say "oh wow, whats that, and then you actually pull her over to yourself, and get very close and you like massage her lower and mid back like looking for nods or something (total bs, its just for kino)
    and after it I did the evolutionary phase shift(by style) and I got stucked into the part where she has to bite me... guess what, she didnt... after it I was just going nuts, so I went for the kiss like and AFC and she just rejected me(she leaned back) hopefully a neg came out to my head at the same time she said "noo" so I said "ahaha you wish, I was just going to say goodbye einstein, are you always this fast? (neg)"
    So what I dont know and what made me go nuts was that she was being very touchy in the theatre but when we came out she didnt follow along for the kiss, and I read her good, she gave me lots of IOIs, the only body languague rejection or IOD was in the Kino test where I was massaging her lower back, she pulled away a bit.
    My thoughts about it was that she was comfortable in the cinema and because of the surrounding outside with a lot of people she didnt follow along, but that was my only answer about it. HELP PLEASE!

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    Default Re: Help! Cat string theory back at me!

    GOD! What's with all of these people in thinking that you have to terminate sexual escalation?

    You terminate RAPPORT, because that creates interest and a better picture for you when you come back around for the next interaction. Terminating attraction halfway through with a girl that is clearly trying to get close to you is a non-verbal way of saying "No, I don't want that." She rejected you because you rejected her early on. If you clearly see her trying to get at you, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT! Grab hold of her emotions and send her on a roller coaster ride that is out of her world.

    In addition, your huge problem was that you were literally a robot when it came to interacting with her. The conversations, the strategies, even the sexual contact was planned by a very specific example. What you need to learn is naturality. When the contact didn't go exactly like the book said (and I know specifically what the example entails because I have read it before), you malfunctioned.

    When you used negs, they were almost always after you did something that she did not react as you were hoping for. Your negs came more off as you reeling back from your mistake rather than trying to poke fun at her This looks more like an AFC action rather than that of someone who is super smooth and clearly on top.

    In the end, here is what you need to work on: get away from the books. Build up some naturality and your own language, and you should be pretty much golden.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: Help! Cat string theory back at me!

    I admit that terminating sexual escalation was wrong, I have even read and watched videos of sexual escalation and you have to push it until you notice she feels uncomfortable. BUT I stopped her sexual escalation to me because that suppose to makes her feel like she cant get me so easy so she invest more on me, then, If I take advantage of her kino that would appear to her like too easy and she would be non interested on me. And dont get me wrong but the negs and the conversations I had where in a playfull manner (also Im an actor) I know how interact with body language when it comes to conversation/talking, etc.

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    Default Re: Help! Cat string theory back at me!

    When she was touching your arm at the theater thats when you may have gone for the kiss.
    Your tool doesn't seem bad, but when ever you are running game or kino and you begin getting ios you may kiss.
    To sexually escalate you need to isolate her.here it was a movie a perfect opportunity since she was giving you ios.

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    Default Re: Help! Cat string theory back at me!

    Thanks Hardrock. You just cleared my thoughts, she was giving me IOIs on the theatre but I didnt went for the kiss because I didnt actually take that as an isolation (because was full of people) so after when came out of it, I went for it and she rejected me...


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