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    So I've noticed something for awhile now, but never put too much effort into it until recently. I noticed that some women I've dated have eerily similar characteristics with at least one other woman I've dated before.

    I've had an ex from years ago have similar traits to a woman who I just got out of a relationship with just only a few months ago. I've had a woman who had trouble opening up, and the same thing with a current one I'm dating. There's more than that, but I won't get into it. My point is, with one gf I could openly talk of love and marriage. And even kids. Whereas others would rather just be in the moment and not think about those kinds of things. In fact it would creep them out if you approached them with the idea of marriage.

    So it became apparent that they must be attracted to different things in a man. That they have different voids in their life that we have to figure out how to fill. I made a novice attempt at trying to categorize these women and figure out what they specifically respond to. It would make it much easier right? Then I decided to look at Pandoras Box. I have not purchased it, but just glanced and familiarized myself with the 3 dimensions and the 8 types. Roughly. Because that's exactly what it's suppose to do. Categorize them. But from a PUA perspective.

    I personally don't care too much about personality type tests or books. It's all generalizations and no better than astrology in my opinion. But I also can't ignore the fact that women I've been with can share similar traits to each other. So maybe someone can get these personality types right. There has to be an ongoing, consistent pattern.

    So I'd like to start a discussion on this topic.

    My main question is:

    Have you had experience with Pandora's Box and do you think it works? Why or why not?
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: Question from BatMan

    i cant speak relationship wise nor for pandoras box. but ive also noticed that I've attracted women with the same traits over and over again. at times i have this deeper level of connection without ever even speaking to them- the attractions natural, no need of gaming. its just there, raw and natural. i think it has to do with the type of women you also choose to attract in your life wether its conscious or at a subconscious level.look for patterns, are they the same zodiac? or same personality types?

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    Default Re: Question from BatMan

    I have never used the lines specifically stated in there (yes, I have the complete set), but I've noticed that all women I've met, always fit one of the 8 types. I think Pandora's Box increased my understanding about a woman's mind.
    But I've never thought about in the field like:

    "Oh man this chick looks like a total TJR, so I should say..."

    I just went with it naturally...
    It's not about who I was or who I'm going to become.

    It's about who I am. Do it right here, right now.

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    I believe it works but it should only be taken with a pinch of salt. Reason being from experience, once I was dating a girl who I genuinely thought was a "Investor-Denier-Realist" which is perfect girlfriend material according to Vin (and it is if you find one) but it turns out half way through dating her (we met up in a club that night to hang out and it was early days) that she was in fact a playette "Tester-Denier-Idealist but I was in pole position for her because if a man can turn a playette into a girlfriend then she has incredibly high value for said man.

    I was very confused by all of this which lead me to taking the system very lightly because personalities can change over time and some girls can be very good at masking their true personalities as we know that most girls don't want to be labelled as a slut. Looking back on it, during the early days I was gaming her an a playette rather than a connoisseur which is why she was addicted to me.

    Overall the system is very interesting and you can spot patterns and similarities in the girls you date and meet very easily once you have a good understanding of the system. It takes you through ways to attract, build comfort, kino, what sort of conversation and escalate the interaction with all 8 types. But as I said before, the system should not be taken too seriously or dogmatic but as a rough guideline or tool to your knowledge bank. I recommend it.
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    Default Re: Question from BatMan

    It is an adaptive strategy at this point I am noticing similar things batman, but like many I cannot tell you of Pandora's box because I too am not that familiar with it.

    But society is changing again to the next evolution. I agree now we need to figure out how to open these ladies that are much more fearful of long term relations. Heck, so much is changing that only a year or two ago wouldn't skate. So we now have to figure out how to deal with society's ever increasingly f***ed new norms.
    Learn to be a better person not a better player.

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    Default Re: Question from BatMan

    I bought Pandora's Box and found it sort of weak! The women they used in the videos were Bimbos. They were the doorknob sort, easy pickings under any conditions.

    PB's division into four distinct groups made sense at first, but when I started testing it on women I know, it failed. PB explains that some women are combos of the four groups and can change midstream, but the characteristics of each group are too general - like a newspapers horoscope.

    Then there is the big question, "How do you know which of the four groups does a woman fall under?" Can you truly figure it out in a few minutes - in a club, chatroom, dating site? Impossible!

    Let's say you do. Then what? Well, you have to act the part of being the dope she wants. If she's an investor, you have to have faults she can try to fix. And, if you want to keep an investor, you must always remain broken or she'll lose interest.

    Bottom line is that Pandora's Box requires a man to fake a character, to fake values, to become a walking talking breathing LIE!
    Carpe diem!

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    EMS pulls through with a very well crafted review good stuff
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    Summarising what EMS said- not worth it if you can already stand up on your own

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    Default Re: Question from BatMan

    Bottom line is that Pandora's Box requires a man to fake a character, to fake values, to become a walking talking breathing LIE!
    no one forces you to stay with or go after a type that you don't like, i like the TDI's in pandoras terms, if i come across an ndi i don't try and pursue cause i know what i want, same for the other personality types, and overall i reckon it's quite a useful tool for getting into the mindset of what you're after, but never pay for it :>

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    Default Re: Question from BatMan

    Quote Originally Posted by hyp View Post
    Bottom line is that Pandora's Box requires a man to fake a character, to fake values, to become a walking talking breathing LIE!
    no one forces you to stay with or go after a type that you don't like, i like the TDI's in pandoras terms, if i come across an ndi i don't try and pursue cause i know what i want, same for the other personality types, and overall i reckon it's quite a useful tool for getting into the mindset of what you're after, but never pay for it :>
    Spot on, that's why I mentioned it was a decently useful tool like Speed Seduction (which in my opinion is not even that good anyway) or a kiss close you found that works, not a method that you may centre your game around like the Mystery Method or the Juggler method. If you got good game already and are happy with the results you're getting than PB may be quite redundant but if you want a little extra knowledge on the girls you're dating to get better results (which was me months ago) then its worth a look at but definitely not worth paying the price for.

    Like I said its a helpful TOOL not METHOD.
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