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Thread: Making the transition... sticking point!

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    Default Making the transition... sticking point!

    Each time, I can nail the opening and the mid-game stuff usually goes well. However, it's making the transition to a kiss close, number close or getting the HB on the dance-floor that becomes an issue. Any ideas on how to make a smooth transition? (Keeping in mind that this sticking point occurs after engaging the set and then starting to narrow in on the target.)

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    Default Re: Making the transition... sticking point!

    That is the isolate build comfort and rapport stage. That is just it you haven't isolated, therefore a number close, kiss close or anything else isn't going to happen. Need details though, rundown of body language, rundown of kino used on the sets, there are far too many variables here. I think that you are having non verbal communication issues that are preventing you from isolating and building comfort. IE framing, body language kino or a combination of all three.
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    Default Re: Making the transition... sticking point!

    Sure! The main kino I use is touching the elbow of my target while mentioning a neg or joking type of question to the group... I only do this though when I have already won over the set. The target usually reacts to this by becoming more attentive to what I am saying.
    I maintain a confident posture while using relaxed/comfortable gestures and it always seems to make the set feel more comfortable in turn, so it's working well.
    Also ran a best friends test that really engaged the set (consisted of 2 for instance). So now that I won over the set, how do I isolate my target without de-railing the whole conversation?

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    Default Re: Making the transition... sticking point!

    Hometown has hit the nail on the head here - Isolation is NEEDED and is the next step.
    This depends on how big the set is, if its a 2-set then its obviously going to be a lot harder to isolate than if she was in a 5-set. I would suggest learning some game/magic tricks.

    If she is in a 2-set: either use a wingman if you have one, or suggest to them both to go and find somewhere quiter, or go to for a dance, once you have engaged their interest. if you find somewhere quieter/sit down, make sure you sit in the middle of them, and lean back so they can both see each other and dont feel secluded. engage conversation in them both- whilst escalating kino with your target. Ask them what their plans for the night is or if they have any fantasies (you may aswell aim high and go for the threesome). One time i had a 2-set in this situation i spoke quietly to my target but loud enough so the other girl could hear "i know you want to kiss me right now but it wouldnt be fair on your mate.." then turned around to the other girl and ask "three way kiss?" with a huge smile on my face. They looked at each other then shrugged - got the kiss and n-close from my target, nothing more that night

    If she is in a 5-set then neg the target a bit, and after she looks like she has taken some insult but is attentive to you, ask her if you can make it up to her by perform a palm-reading or other various game/trick. this will allow you to take her somewhere and isolate her.

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    Default Re: Making the transition... sticking point!

    That is all very solid advice remember isolate means attention mainly heck so long as you isolate her attention larger groups tend to allow to people on the side and just kinda Cary on without you for a while but Zeus is right on the money with his examples. I just am not too big into the negs unless they are like smokin hot.
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    Default Re: Making the transition... sticking point!

    Alright then, thanks a lot guys! This will all definitely come in use during the next sarge


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