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    Hazeleyes87 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Post Facebook an easy resource or just plain a waste of time

    So Id like to introduce myself this is my first post.

    I met this chick on Facebook shes much younger than me im almost 26 and shes going to 19 soon, I am pretty underdeveloped as a PUA so i haven't graduated to going to clubs or bars and running sets so I have been capitalizing on Facebook as my introduction to this new world.

    So here goes I added her one day along with about 36 other random cute girls all at the same time and waited until she liked a couple of my posts I initiated the conversation and we IM'ed for awhile and I was doing a pretty decent job I actually had her more interested in me than i was in her she even insisted she give me her number and we take it to that next stage it almost seemed like she was running male game on me. after a couple days of alot of texting back and fourth and the usual good morning and goodnight texts I started to back off and she even made comments like why didn't you text me this morning etc well one night we are talking and it goes into a sexual direction and she is very open and enthusiastic about it aswell, I insisted that we not take it this far and I wasn't interested in even talking to her that much and she insisted that we get to know each other more. well a few days go by and i notice i am needing to initiate the conversations and when i do there few and far between and short and sweet so i take a step back and go cold. Weeks go by we do not even talk we send the occasional hey but its very robotic texting and stuff, in the mean time im doing alpha male sh1t like going to the gym etc. well about a month goes by and we start talking about but I noticed shes hanging out with guys now, I ask her if shes got a bf and she says no well day of graduation I just so happen to be there because my cousin went to the same school and was in the same class and at the end of the ceremony we are all in the main hall and I spot her now I didnt even plan on it but i said fark it and ran up to her and said congratulations and then bolted away, she looked stunned. She was not expecting to see me.

    So I am done taking pictures with my cousins and stuff and im leaving via the parking lot when i see this guy holding her hand pulling her away and it clicked she was seeing a guy and wasn't telling me so about 30 minutes later i text her and "apparently he had her phone" but I explained what i saw and wanted answers and I asked if that was her boyfriend and she(he) replied yes so that was that. two days goes by and she texts me out of the blue and I tell her that I knew what was going on and I expressed my concern that I did not wanna communicate anymore because in the beginning she pushed herself on me and i actually tried to back away. So to make a long story short i negged her and called her immature and let her know that I wasn't satified with her performance in 2 big long texts and all she replys with is "ok bye" I let it die and deleted her thread in my phone and said welp thats over, finally.

    Well a week to today goes by and I get a random text at around 11 am from her "lets hang out" I am floored I wait 20 minutes and reply why the sudden change of heart and she replys I am in your town returning some stuff to walmart and we arrange it and we meet at my apartment complex parking lot and we go for a 2 and a half hour drive and just shoot the sh1t. I start it off negging her about her car she drives then on first contact force a hug, she seemed alittle taken by it I can tell she was not 100% comfortable but she wasn't saying anything because shes young so of course she will be awkward. she takes a really big breath and compliments me on my smell says i smell really good which i do because I use too sexy "for him" cologne with pharamones from Victoria Secret. so we go for the ride Im impressing her with my fast car we drive around we end up going to the dealership i work she is interested in buying a car so I take charge and walk in and just grab the keys she wants and a dealer plate I completely bypass the salesman and talk to GM of the store and we go for a ride in the car she wants which she clearly can't afford but I figure it doesn't hurt to get her excited at nobody's expense, she creates a false time constraint in the beginning of the hangout that she has to be at work by 3 and home by 2 but after we get in her car she changes it to 2:15 anyways we discuss finances yadda yadda we drive around for about 30 minutes deal with the finance officer and I knew she couldn't get the car so we leave and I mention i could have gotten it for cheaper if we were dating and shes like well why didn't you tell him that then im fine with it and I made it clear that since we weren't together I wasn't going to lie to him and she insisted it was ok. we drive back to my place its about 20 to 2 and im just like ya well im going up to my apartment if you wanna come up your welcome to for a few minutes and she accepts and we go to it. I warn her my apartment is a disaster which it isn't super bad but I like to tell girls that so they think there walking into Project Hollywood from "The Game"and when they see it it isn't that bad but its defiantly single male lived in and could use a cleaning we take a tour of my place she asks to use the restroom does comes out and then she doesn't wanna sit down she just insists that she has to go so I am like ok cool see ya! she expects a hug so we hug, during it she says out of the blue and I didnt say anything but she says "Don't worry ill come back" and then she leaves. I didn't walk her to her car because I want her to think i give a sh1t. So im just siting there thinking.. should I text her? no.. about 40 minutes later she texts me "Thanx for hanging out with me today" I waited 40 minutes to reply "Ya it was alright, good luck at work." she reply's within 2 minutes "Thanks!" and I don't text her again.

    Now during the car ride I was negging her and flirting with her at one point she even made a comment about her new shirt which was cut off and showed her tits really well and i commented "what are you trying to show me your boobs?" and she goes "no if I wanted to show you them i would just show you them" and I neg her "Well I probably don't want to see them anyways i'm sure they probably look weird and one is bigger than the other" she gets flush and couldn't believe I said it but she wasn't mad she just couldn't get over the fact i wasn't a hard-on for her. I definitely tried to make her feel like she wasn't my main agenda and I did so by openly texting girls during our hangout and not giving her much attention.
    I also was reading body language like her looking my hair, then down to my lips and back into my eyes, she would stare deeply at me the entire time we hung out I even noticed her examining me in my peripheral vision in my car during our ride.

    So my question is where do i go from here? I was thinking about cleaning my apartment up extremely OCD clean and when she comes over next have her surprised or something I think I have successfully taken it from a lost cause to a possible lay. Should i wait awhile to send her any real texts?

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    Default Re: Facebook an easy resource or just plain a waste of time

    anything guys? I know it's a long read but i am giving a full backstory.

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    Default Re: Facebook an easy resource or just plain a waste of time

    First off, the title of the thread has nothing to do with the questions asked in the post. Facebook is an amazing resource, IF you know how to use it. It's not like a dating website, so you have to be careful with how you run conversations on there with people you don't know.

    Anyways, I can see numerous errors you have committed that explain the actions that happened after them.

    one night we are talking and it goes into a sexual direction and she is very open and enthusiastic about it aswell, I insisted that we not take it this far and I wasn't interested in even talking to her that much and she insisted that we get to know each other more.
    1. You killed sexual escalation in the first run. Seriously? Where do all the rookies on here get the idea that you are supposed to kill one of the most important phases of attraction? I think you might have been going for a push-pull, but your strategy destroyed your chances with her at the time. Remember, only cut off RAPPORT, and it is done so in normal conversation.

    well day of graduation I just so happen to be there because my cousin went to the same school and was in the same class and at the end of the ceremony we are all in the main hall and I spot her now I didnt even plan on it but i said fark it and ran up to her and said congratulations and then bolted away, she looked stunned.
    2. You wussed out of a potential in-person conversation with her. You see her in person, then you should strike up a conversation with her. Then, after a few minutes, you should have said "I have to go, my cousin is waiting for me". She was stunned probably because she was thinking "what the hell?". After all, you only did bolt by and shoot her a quick congratulations before moving on.

    So I am done taking pictures with my cousins and stuff and im leaving via the parking lot when i see this guy holding her hand pulling her away and it clicked she was seeing a guy and wasn't telling me so about 30 minutes later i text her and "apparently he had her phone" but I explained what i saw and wanted answers and I asked if that was her boyfriend and she(he) replied yes so that was that.
    3. You flipped sh1t over the fact she was seeing other guys. She's a free spirit, you blasted her off, and now you expect her to sit and wait for you? That's not how it works. When she is done with you, she is done with you until further notice. She doesn't need to explain her lifestyle or relationships to you. If she does so, then it will be a severe inconvenience to her, and it will make you look like the immature one.

    two days goes by and she texts me out of the blue and I tell her that I knew what was going on and I expressed my concern that I did not wanna communicate anymore because in the beginning she pushed herself on me and i actually tried to back away.
    4. Once again, you are flipping sh1t. This time, though, you are being a baby about the fact that she isn't yours, and now you are making things dramatic by telling her that you don't want to communicate anymore. Leave the drama to the women, and if this happens again, just drop the issue. Make it look like it is not phasing you.

    So to make a long story short i negged her and called her immature and let her know that I wasn't satified with her performance in 2 big long texts and all she replys with is "ok bye" I let it die and deleted her thread in my phone and said welp thats over, finally.
    5. That's not a neg, dude. That right there is flat out insult in an argument that you have spawned. Negs, when they actually do work, are meant to be cocky humor and backhanded compliments. The context of this is nowhere near funny, and if you were designing it like that, then you have failed. Overall, I think you need to go back over all of your PUA terms to figure out what is what and how to do it properly.

    I start it off negging her about her car she drives then on first contact force a hug, she seemed alittle taken by it I can tell she was not 100% comfortable but she wasn't saying anything because shes young so of course she will be awkward.
    6. I'm just not going to mention the negs after this. These are flat out insults to her current lifestyle, and it is making her severely uncomfortable. You need to stop using negs, and just be flirty. Negs are terrible things to use, and it will only work to hurt her rather than help you.

    I warn her my apartment is a disaster which it isn't super bad but I like to tell girls that so they think there walking into Project Hollywood from "The Game"and when they see it it isn't that bad but its defiantly single male lived in and could use a cleaning we take a tour of my place she asks to use the restroom does comes out and then she doesn't wanna sit down she just insists that she has to go so I am like ok cool see ya!
    7. When the possibility of bringing someone home is high, you have GOT to make sure that your pad is clean. The reason she left wasn't because you said a couple of minutes. It was probably because she was so uncomfortable in that messy apartment. Then again, she might have left simply because you were tearing on her all day long with your "negs".

    You did do a few things right. For example, your alternation of text time was decent, and you didn't ask her to do the things that you wanted to do with her. You invited her ("ya well im going up to my apartment if you wanna come up your welcome to for a few minutes"). You might have taken your disinterest overboard with the texting of other girls while she was around, but it was decent nonetheless.

    Overall, just very ugly. Your biggest problem is the insults that you call negs. STOP USING THEM. That will get you a lot farther for starters. In addition, don't be so much of an ass. Show her some kindness and common courtesy once in a while, like when you took her to the car dealership so she could drive a car around. Women appreciate those things, and you especially have to be careful with someone so much younger than you. It's alright to stand up for your stuff and have the non-pushover qualities of a bad boy, but you should not let it diminish the nice side of you. Mixing the two qualities will do more to help you than any of the two sides alone will.

    To answer your last question at the bottom, maybe wait a day and then fire up a conversation with her. Don't send her the robotic "hello". Try to start off the conversation with some sort of reference to something she found hilarious in the last interaction you two had.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: Facebook an easy resource or just plain a waste of time

    Thanks for the responce, ya i felt like i may have overdid it alittle, im am not only new to the PUA game but im pretty much extremly unexperienced so its a work in progress, where I fell short on this hang-out I made up for in a different date I had last night I actually made a full close "not with this girl". Kino escalation and push/pull can really do wonders


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