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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Sounds like she is trying to get back at you for not going with her. Talk to other girls at the party and prove your social status to her, if you play your cards right she may change her mind.

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Holy shhh....I DID IT AGAIN...

    So update on last night:

    She ended up bringing her girlfriends to the party and I played beerpong with her again but this time we werent doing to well. Still had some fun and ran little bits of kino here and there. Did a highfive and closed my fingers into hers. Dont know if thats a good kino move or not? But just throwing it out there. I still went around talked to other girls and tried reading their body language. Which was really weird because my friend's gf was showing me a lot of positive body language. I had to scoot away from her from time to time cause she was getting pretty close. And I noticed some "preening" with her friend. (the whole tossing the hair exposing your neck thing). Its crazy once you read a lot about this stuff.

    But the small bits and pieces aside I didnt run too much game on her. we were all just having fun at the party...BUT:

    The next morning I texted one of the girls (an old friend) that was there and i told her we should hang out before she went back to her part of town. But she ended up being with a few others from the night before. So I text my target and tell her when she wakes up lets go eat with our friends. so she rolls through and I drive us to the meetup spot that we ate at.

    At this point I'm "framing"? If i'm even using that term correctly. I have about 8-10 people focused on me and get them laughing. We make pretty decent eye contact. As I do with the other girl from time to time. then as everyone is in their own conversations I ask my target what shes doing today and if shes seen any good movies lately. She says nothing really and she hasnt seen any movies but wants to. So I tell her lets go to a certain mall again (which our first "date" was at) So we leave everyone after the meal and we hit up the spot. We hit the arcade and have some innocent fun. I win her some stuffed animals which she hugged onto for the rest of the night. As we walk around the area I run some shoulder kino here and there point to things. Then we watch the movie --no contact was made except for her reaching over to get popcorn. haha. Then at the end we head back to my area and I show her a spot where it has a really good scenery. We kick it there for a bit just have a few laughs. Head back to my place and we go up for a little bit. This is where I keep f--king up. Shes on my bed again doing like a leaning back but on your hands type of pose. I come sit next to her and run the whole 4 truths 1 lie game. It doesnt work out and we just sorta laugh about it. her focus turns away towards the tv for a bit and then says shes gonna go cause shes hungry. ---f--ked up again..

    I walk her out and she gives me a hug and says thanks for today -- but does this weird pat on the back type of hug. and leaves.

    I dont know what my problem is. I feel like everything was great until the very end? Maybe i was losing my sharpness or frame/confidence? Should i keep pursuing or just forget about it? (I'll add more details if I miss anything later. )

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    You're 1 step away. While you're interacting with her try making eye contact and scanning your eyes to her lips as well. Not too much, just enough to subconsciously tell her " im confident enough to stare you in the eye, as well let you know whats on my mind by looking at your lips". When she sees you doing this she cant help but associate YOU and her lips. make sure the TV's off and go for the kill.

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Looks like the confidence my b effing it up just find a way to add that framing is more or less controlling the environment and energy flow of the set and anyone else that is affected. You have to be the alpha of the frame the master. If you are the you will be flawless. You need a good isolation with the target escalate and hurry up and kiss close that already

    Isolate, escalate and get that kiss
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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Its funny that you say that Jafari cause when I was playing the "lie game" I did look down at her lips once. But I think I may have done it: eye > cheek > lip. sorta like a clockwise look? maybe that messed it up. After the look to the lips do I just go for it?

    And yeah hometown, maybe my confidence is getting to me. I think when its happening I dont want it to fail like it did before so I hold back. But I read a post that said something about "you gotta think like the situation you are in is so small compared to other things that are going on in the world. You just need the right mindset to make it seem like its nothing and you'll have the balls to just do it"

    I'll try again and see what happens. We talked about going out to eat again at some places shes hasnt been to. So maybe that'll work out this time. (f_ck I hope it does this time)

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    You wanna do it throughout the date but in random spurts because if you unveil the eye to lip method at the end it will make you inconsistent and shell be kind of shocked. So do it along the whole date to ease her in.

    Oh and the more you do that the less you need to actually talk, just listen more. when shes talking to you and your listening while making eye and lip contact, just say uh-huh but not in a dick way.

    Finally for the kill, I would try to get HER to ask ME what we should do...you can do this in numerous ways such as saying 'im bored' or some shit. when she asks you, look at her lips and say "are you thinking what im thinking?" This can only be executed with focus and confidence so no hiccups or hesitations...if you do it right she'll be on you like white on rice

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Don't worry too much about the eye-lip thing, it should be natural.

    Here comes some cheesy advice, but I'm a cheesy guy, deep inside.

    Remember in middle school / high school when you had a crush on a classmate? And suddenly you were there talking to her and stuck at her eyes? And wondering how it would be to kiss her, and couldn't help but look at her lips for an instant? Well, this is it.

    So chat with her, do eye-contact, and once in a while, wonder how it would be to kiss her. This works even better if you DO want to kiss her.
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    ek first of all i like how you seem to never give up but on the other hand you have ignored one important fact sort of.why?this girl wants it.THAT BAD.she wants to experience you.

    Theres a time to drop all the pua stuff.you need to either run kino so she is turned on she makes a move on you or just go for the move.work on your room scenario.you may be nervous since you have not anticipated the way things fall in place but on the other hand it not far from you at all.
    in a nutshell prepare in your mind one thing to do when the girls ends in your room.

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Actually I forgot to mention:

    We always actually do this betting thing, where we always play some sort of game and bet on it but never come up with a prize after the bet is done.

    Like yesterday I asked her "okay who won?" she said a tie but I said no way. Then she said fine you did. What was the bet on? I said I dunno I'll think about it.

    Should I have said a kiss? or is that too cheesy/AFC-like?

    This makes me sorta mad at myself too. I'm letting opportunities slip away!

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Normally if you just let the conversation trial off whilst maintaining eye contact with her, if she holds eye contact back with you for more than 3 seconds, you can feel the sexual tension and the kiss is normally on. Otherwise she wont look back at you or she would start up a new conversation etc.

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