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    Default Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    So I'll start from the beginning so you guys have a full understanding of whats up and in case the details really mean anything. (i'm new to pick up still)

    So there's this female friend (mutual friend) that i've had interests in for a while now.
    We sorta went on a date once (pre-pickup) and I went to fast/too much kino at the time. (hand holding)
    And so it ended for a while after that and she got a boyfriend within our group of friends.
    They recently broke up 5+ months ago and I'm not very fond of the guy anyway.

    So what I'm basically asking is:
    1. Have I struck out ?
    2. Do I still have a chance or is it once you fail you're in the done list in their mind?
    3. What can I do to fully know if shes interested?
    4. When is the best time to make a move?

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    1. In picking girls up you have never 'struck out' until she literally tells you that you should be friends, or says that she doesnt wasnt anything etc. As you havent tried to progress this - you cant tell what she is going to say so still have a chance and all is to play for.

    2. So you had one bad date a while ago - yes it may mean she already has an opinion of you, but from what ive read she didnt seem to be dwelling on it much and in fact seemed to be enjoying her time with you - you just need to rebuild the image she has of you now and exude your alpha-maleness to her.

    3. Things to look for when trying to find out if a girl is interested all called IOIs (indicators of interest) and they can be anything from her asking you questions about you, her touching you, laughing at your jokes, or in this case, offering to give you lifts to this party (if she didnt have fun with you at the first place she wouldnt have offered) and giving you hugs/high-fives. Generally 3 IOI's is when you make the transition to the next stage, and seems like you got more than that here!

    4. After you get 3 IOIs, bring in some kino escalation, there are numerous ways in which you can do this. Then you need to seduce her, there is a powerful psychological technique i recently picked up on and put in to practise, and so far after 2 uses (one in a bar and 1 in my room) i got a k-close. Its called fractionation - maybe worth a research but i have uploaded a thread about the 3 main stages in picking up women, in which i go into a bit more detail on this.

    Hope this answers your questions

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Thanks for the reply Zeus, so I'm trying to find your post on fractionation or IOI's but I cant figure out this forum. Could you post a link?

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Yeah sure - http://www.puaforums.com/how-pick-up...-up-women.html
    Its in the attraction section, but you also easily go online and just search it, its quite well known!

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Thanks again Zeus, one last question though:

    Should I ask her to hang out/on a date this week?

    So pretty much "freeze out" until saturday or just go for it since its past that "7 hour rule"

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    This is all calibration! Practice, study up on anything that is not second nature to you.

    Last point if you think you don have a chance you are done. Pack it up it was a nice run. However if you think you have a good chance and you just need to calibrate and you will win her over then you have a chance. Unless she literally slams the door on you with LJBF you still have a shot and if you are really good you can crawl out of that hole too.

    Ever see a girl pick out clothing? Now, do you honestly think they have very solid opinions in general? Point being they will change their opinion on anything all the time weather it is dresses, panties or us. It is all subject to change.

    Framing, body language, and kino the big three non verbals that kill most often. I harp on hem very often but you cannot argue with results non-verbals speak louder than your words ever will.
    Learn to be a better person not a better player.

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    She flaked on you last time you tried to arrange something so its her responsibility to re-arrange if she wants it. You dont want to give off the impression you are a push-over. Wait for the party and follow hometown's advice. After that progress to asking her on another date.

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    Alright awesome guys. Thanks a lot for all the advice. I'll study up and let you know how it goes over the weekend.

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    UPDATE:

    Damn...So tonight is the night but now plans fell through

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    Default Re: Did I strike out? Or do I still have a chance?

    No, she struck out. Take her off the pedestal.


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