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    Default Who has had success after a quick number close?

    I've been reading through the posts on approaching women here on the forums, and in a thread by Bill Preston, I saw that a poster brought up an interesting dilemma to the lightning quick method of a number close.

    Suppose that you did close a number in as short of a time as possible. The problem here is this: even though you got the number, will she respond if you message her back? According to the person that brought this point up, 9 out of 10 of the numbers that you speed close will not respond to you. This is because the target will still feel like you are a stranger, and thus they would want to avoid you.

    My question to the community is this: have you ever been able to get a second sort of interaction, public, text, whatever, after a quick number close?
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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    I don't use the text game because my phone game is very good. I can # close and be able to get a girl engaged in a conversation 2 hours in length where I get her to open up about everything. It really helps build the rapport, I escalate and the girls will tell me that it feels like the have known me for a long time. The conversation is very comfortable. I have had conversations that have lasted 4 or 5 hours on multiple occasions as well.

    When there is the next date I f-close 90% of the time because most of my work has been done on the phone. conversational skills and humor are so vital.

    Texting to me is much slower and tedious. Because many guys can't or won't talk on the phone it's a skill that many girls think is DHV on part of the guy when they can hold a conversation for a lengthy period of time.

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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    Quote Originally Posted by dave_xxx View Post
    I don't use the text game because my phone game is very good. I can # close and be able to get a girl engaged in a conversation 2 hours in length where I get her to open up about everything. It really helps build the rapport, I escalate and the girls will tell me that it feels like the have known me for a long time. The conversation is very comfortable. I have had conversations that have lasted 4 or 5 hours on multiple occasions as well.

    When there is the next date I f-close 90% of the time because most of my work has been done on the phone. conversational skills and humor are so vital.

    Texting to me is much slower and tedious. Because many guys can't or won't talk on the phone it's a skill that many girls think is DHV on part of the guy when they can hold a conversation for a lengthy period of time.
    Yea, my text and phone game are very solid too, but I was wondering of how was your success rate if you closed a number after, say, five minutes? Do you have as much success getting a second interaction after a five minute conversation than you would do with a far longer one?
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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    -__-

    OMG teach me Dave XXX
    i can insta lock a girls phone number ( thanks o a classic style opener and my looks)
    But when it comes to texting...I always fak up....can't seem to build rapport through texting

    ciao

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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    It depends on who you ask. Check out Justin Wayne on youtube. He's all about those longer interactions which in turn reduce the amount approaches you have to make. He's all about building the romantic connection before you even get the number, and that honestly makes the most sense. There's no equation, but I can pretty confidently say that the shorter the interaction, the lower your chances of getting anywhere are. With that said I have had success with short interactions, but also by far the most flakes happen with a short interaction. You're just not really able to build that rapport or comfort. If I'm in the position too, I always push for the insta date and try to take the interaction as far is it can go.

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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    I have.. I made this line up and it works 90% of the time " how do you spell your name?" ( you say that while giving her your phone to put her number in. ( only one time it didn't work because the girl was like " I just met you!!!" And I laughed and walked off to talk to other people.
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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    My line happens in like 5 seconds
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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    If you quick number close (which I do all the time during the day) and leave the best thing you can do is shoot her a text message right away. You can just send her a message saying see seemed interesting and you want to grab coffee or a drink sometime.

    Since she JUST gave you her number, she will respond to the text in most instances. This is good because now you've set up a precedent of her responding. This also builds some comfort as well.

    When you grab numbers quick, it becomes more of a numbers game than if you spend time with HBs, but the reward can be much higher because you can grab a lot more numbers.
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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    Thanks lilsting and duke, that answers my question.

    So my end understanding is that the shorter the conversation, the smaller your window of opportunity is before she closes it on you. However, if your conversation is long and memorable, then it doesn't matter when you text her. It just matters that you bring yourself back around to that conversation.

    I think I have a good understanding of this now. When I go out in public Friday, I will keep this in mind and I will use it
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    Default Re: Who has had success after a quick number close?

    In his guide Paul Janka advocates number closing and moving on as quickly as possible so you don't fark it up. In a place like NYC it's actually a great strategy since you can play the numbers game. Although, that strategy will hold your development back in several ways.

    [Moderator Note: Paul Janka is basically as attractive as a male model. If you look like him, great. If not - you may want to develop some real game]
    Last edited by KristiBell; 06-05-2013 at 07:35 AM.
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