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    Default Wingman-ing gone wrong

    I was out yesterday with a friend, and he met this nice chick and was doing kind of fine with her. I'm usually the alpha of the group and know everyone there, but I figured "hey, let's be a nice guy and get him with the girl".

    So I kept making him seem like the best and awesomest guy in the world, getting them on dates, giving him stuff to say when he got stale, BUT.

    The more it went on, the more she was flirting with me. Eyefucking like crazy, footsie and stuff.

    1 - What the hell do you do when the target is hitting on the wingman?

    2 - I've noticed that when you're the alpha, trying to DHV your beta/AFC friend ("he has the best apartment ever!" "He is the best guy you've ever met!") can have the opposite effect and gets YOU even more DHV. Is that a thing?
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    Default Re: Wingman-ing gone wrong

    So nobody has experienced this thing of the girl hitting on the wingman despite his efforts?
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    Default Re: Wingman-ing gone wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikalichov View Post
    I was out yesterday with a friend, and he met this nice chick and was doing kind of fine with her. I'm usually the alpha of the group and know everyone there, but I figured "hey, let's be a nice guy and get him with the girl".

    So I kept making him seem like the best and awesomest guy in the world, getting them on dates, giving him stuff to say when he got stale, BUT.

    The more it went on, the more she was flirting with me. Eyefarking like crazy, footsie and stuff.

    1 - What the hell do you do when the target is hitting on the wingman?

    2 - I've noticed that when you're the alpha, trying to DHV your beta/AFC friend ("he has the best apartment ever!" "He is the best guy you've ever met!") can have the opposite effect and gets YOU even more DHV. Is that a thing?
    Yes, you will come across as desirable and a huge ALPHA when you build up your friends / wingman. You will come across as a very confident guy when you do that.

    I write about that a little bit in my post in this thread.

    http://www.puaforums.com/ask-expert/...tml#post100228

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    Default Re: Wingman-ing gone wrong

    Damn, that's what I thought.

    So how do you help your friends get some while staying alpha?

    Also, what is the correct reaction when someone says "Mikalichov here got the best car ever" ? "Yes, I do" sounds beta, "No, I don't" sounds even more beta
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    Default Re: Wingman-ing gone wrong

    Reply with:

    "Hey when you rob banks for a living the car has to be decent. Then point to the HB, you can be the getaway driver next time"


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