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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzie View Post
    I agree. When i started out 7 years ago, i used some canned routines I got from ebooks with varying degrees of effectiveness. I never used the cube though. Didn't have the patience to learn it. Now I have several of my own personal routines that I use. Whenever I say anything in conversation that gives me a good response I'll remember to say it again. It is the real world for me because they are coming from my own personal experiences. If I tell a story, it is from my life. Canned material is good as long as you don't become dependent on it.
    Perfect. Couldn't have said it any better my friend.

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    Thanks Guys I think I've got it now, please comment on my other threads aswell They are the things I want as much help as posslible with thanks again!

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    I've never had a girl react negatively when I told them what I do.
    I'm completely honest with them. THAT is the key. (Women will respect you for expressing honesty.)

    When I mention that I study & teach relationship psychology / social dynamics, they're always extremely curious & intrigued.

    In fact, I've been talking with one woman who is compiling all sorts of online dating message interactions that she's had, and putting a book together.

    When I told her what I do, she lit up like a little kid at Christmas time & wants me to to collaborate with her.

    If you're honest from the start, it's all gonna be good.


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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    If women are privy to this info then it changes nothing. Being a PUA were providing a free service to them that lets them experience something they normally would never touch. If they know what were doing all that changes is they ask themselves if were good enough at the game to see us again.

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    It turns out almost every woman already knows the game. It's us men who generally need the help figuring it out.

    You know how to tell if I'm hitting on a woman? I'm talking to her, looking at her, or posturing, for her. (That was the case before the girlfriend, anyway.)

    I have actually had women call me out on trying some of Mystery's stuff when his show was on VH1. I purposely used it just as it had been shown. It was pretty funny when they called me out on it. I'd usually make a statement that they should know how to react, since they also watched the show. It was fun.

    At the basis of it all, every interaction we have with someone is a manipulation, or attempted manipulation. Everything we do, we do for a reason; we speak to be heard, we open doors for people to be nice, we have sex for mutual pleasure. It's all manipulation at the base definition of the word.
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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    i personally can't wait for "The Game" movie to come out and suddenly see every guy that watches it then show up at a club making himself look like a clown trying to "peacock" thinking after a 90 minute movie he's running the place

    those guys trying to recite memorized lines and routines making fools out of themselves are just going to make it easier for the rest of us... girls are going to think they've spotted a "pua" with those guys, just making us look more charming

    ... just going to turn the afc's into clowns and give us a comedy sideshow to watch between openings
    "First we're going to take their money, then we're going to blow it on booze and broads!" - Ric Flair

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    I can completely relate to the earlier posts about having guilt ruin your game. I having been dating for a couple months now and continue to sabotage my game with the guilty feelings. Has any one hit the pause button on their game to work inner game? I need to get passed this and realize I'm not a womanizer, I'm getting everyone what they want (in the short term) but are too afraid or embarrassed to ask for...

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    Quote Originally Posted by Austrim View Post
    I can completely relate to the earlier posts about having guilt ruin your game. I having been dating for a couple months now and continue to sabotage my game with the guilty feelings. Has any one hit the pause button on their game to work inner game? I need to get passed this and realize I'm not a womanizer, I'm getting everyone what they want (in the short term) but are too afraid or embarrassed to ask for...
    What are you feeling guilty about? Have you had sex with a woman and gotten there by lying or other devious deception? Did you tell her you'd call her the next day, then forget?

    Have you not had sex with a woman and you're feeling guilty about all the dirty things you want to do to her?

    Here's the thing. You can do everything right, morally, ethically, honestly, and by the Bible of the Pickup Artist book and you or her, or you and her, might end up with a broken heart, hurt feelings, or even, hatred. Don't forget you are dealing with another human, full of the same emotions you have, good and bad.

    Let's say you did have sex using devious deception. Feel bad. Get over it. Don't repeat it. Do learn from it.

    So, you forgot to call her the next day. It happens. After all, you're a busy man. You told her you would call, you promised it wasn't just about the sex. You didn't call; it was just about the sex, but you had the best of intentions. She will survive. If she hasn't already learned the ways of the world, you're teaching her an important lesson. If she has dated before, she knows the odds. It doesn't make you a bad person, it doesn't make her a bad one, either. Likely, her phone can call out, too.
    Looking back, over all the women I have known, many wanted to have sex as much as I did. It took me a long time to figure that out. Eventually, I realized I was being the nice guy, not banging them, so they were finding other guys to screw. We wanted the same thing, I just didn't know it; banging and screwing, not to be confused with sex. The society I grew up with didn't allow me to believe that. We are lead to believe women don't like sex as much as men. FALSE. They love it; generally, rougher, and more often, than us men.

    Can't get those images out of your head, the ones you should probably be jailed for even thinking? Get over yourself. I guarantee there are women out there wanting just that sick thing. Make sure you get the green light before you go too BDSM. Also, just because you want to pee on her dirty feet while she pops a balloon, don't let that come up during the first couple of sexual encounters.

    Here you are, perfecting your art. You are a good guy. You play the cards, you befriend the men, you handle the women (which is what most of them want). You end up with a broken heart, or she does. Good. I don't think you can truly know you love someone until you have had your heart broken and been the bastard that broke the heart of someone else.

    At the end of the day, no matter how suave you think you are, women will outdo us men on all things manipulative and devious. They are inherently able to understand us while we strive to bend the odds.

    Hit pause, if you must. You know you best, or I do. You are not supposed to be perfect or overly pious. Work on your inner game, all the time. Work on it while you learn the game. Focus on your successes, rebuild after your failures. What one woman can do for your inner game, in a moment, is much more vast than what you can do, for yourself, over the course of a lifetime.
    I have failed more than most men have tried.

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    Quote Originally Posted by Zig Zag View Post
    i don't really think it's good if girls find out what we are doing they may see it as manipulation....
    Nah, we're developing ourselves to be more charismatic and cooler. What's not to like about that.
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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    It doesn't matter if they find out. If anything they should find out and be completely jelous of the fact they could easily lose your attention to another woman. it makes them work harder to keep you interested.


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