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    Wink I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    i don't really think it's good if girls find out what we are doing they may see it as manipulation....

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    I dont care what they think. And I find it funny if they ever knew. They can stay or go knowing Im a pimp
    What you need will not come quickly. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS WHAT YOU FEAR. Take comfort that what you seek is there. But you will NEVER have it if you keep being a p$ssy.

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    Well that's too bad, because in NYC and other major cities, every girl knows what you're doing. So I hope you find a secluded village deep in the heart of the jungles of Africa to do your sarging.
    "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    Yeah, I agree with the other posters. A great part part of your inner game and getting success with PUA is to accept what you do. Because letīs face it, we PUAs make great things happen, we create new connections and hopefully a start of great relations. If you are ashamed of your game then you clearly focus on something wrong that you arent proud of. Instead focus on making a great connection and just having a great time and you will reach success. Sure, there are haters, saying itīs wrong or whatever but just ignore it, donīt give a fark about the haters, perception is reality.

    I would actually love if more knew of it, then it would just sort out the people who go on sarging with the most overused line without any knowledge about the the important part, the concept of why it works. In order to reach true greatness focus on your inner game and understand the basics behind a great pickup and with that noone will ever call out on you or think you are "manipulating", you are just your best self. Sorry for long post but just wanted to make sure this common newbie mindset will get sorted out.

    /Caveman

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    Correct, we are manipulating them....BUT they also are manipulating us. In fact, women have been doing it much better and a lot longer than this community has existed. Are sexy dresses and makeup not manipulation? What about women who use AFC guys for validation? Or women that let guys spend all kinds of money on dates and then never sleep with them?

    I also suggest you try picking up a women's magazine like Cosmo and see what they are reading. You'll find that it is mostly articles like "30 ways to please your man in bed", "7 signs that he's into you" or "How to get him to notice you". It pretty much resembles what we are doing here. We are trying to better ourselves and share tactics on the opposite sex and there is NOTHING wrong with that.

    Whether you want to get laid, have better relationships, or just want more choice in your life, there is nothing to feel ashamed about. The information available in this community can be pretty powerful, but with power comes responsibility. It's up to you what to do with that knowledge.

    I've actually told some of the women I've dated my story and how I learned some of this stuff and you know what? They were NOT upset about it. They were actually intrigued. This is something you'll need to get over because your guilt will impair your game. Best of luck!

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    It's only manipulative if you're manipulating. It's as simple as that. I'm 100% clear with my intentions from my opener, to the n-close, to the date, to the f-close. Take it or leave it.

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    lilsting is real (y) + 30 c h a r a c t e r s

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    I'm referring to manipulation in terms of how you would manipulate an object or in our case routines or lines. I don't condone lying or hiding your intentions with a women. When I approach a women, they know what the fark is up all the way until they end up in bed. Nothing to be ashamed of though. Everyone in this community should be proud of how they are bettering themselves.

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    I don't use any routines or lines. I don't even know what the cube is. I kinda have a jist of it, but I prefer to build my convos off of cold reading and want to better myself in a more natural way. Remember, routines are not applicable to every day life. You can't use the cube in a job interview. I view pickup as a means of bettering all aspects of my social life, and routines and lines are not a part of that. Make mistakes, learn, grow, and succeed.

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    Default Re: I think it's bad if girls find out what we are doing

    I agree. When i started out 7 years ago, i used some canned routines I got from ebooks with varying degrees of effectiveness. I never used the cube though. Didn't have the patience to learn it. Now I have several of my own personal routines that I use. Whenever I say anything in conversation that gives me a good response I'll remember to say it again. It is the real world for me because they are coming from my own personal experiences. If I tell a story, it is from my life. Canned material is good as long as you don't become dependent on it.


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