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Thread: Need some feedback on female friends

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    Default Need some feedback on female friends

    Hi, what's up. I want some feedback on this.
    Well, last night I went out with a couple of female friends of mine. I had a bit of beer, then we ate and talked. They are very close friends of mine (or were, I don't know right now). I really only see them as friends, they buy me beer, give me advice about women and stuff like that. The problem is, in the past few months, every time we went out i felt very bad. It's like they don't respect me a lot, they see me as some younger brother or something. Every time they asked me out, i tought "what the hell! Today might be fun", but at the end of the night I would always be there feeling sorry for myself. Last night it happened again and I tought "damn, maybe female friends are just not good to have around, maybe not like that". Last night when we were at the bar this girl was making eye contact with me. Every five minutes she would make an eye contact. My female friends spotted that, then they turned to me and said that she looked ugly, she was a "bitch" filled with DST's and stuff like that. (I would say the girl was like a Seven). Man, I felt like crap. That really got me, and I didn't approach (hell, I regret that). Then some player approached one of my female friends while I was there. I felt even more bad. You know, what if two players approached and picked my friends? I would just sit there, pay for their stuff and go home alone frustrated with my self? I don't want that for me, hell no. The female friends are very good looking, and I consider them as good friends of mine even before i got to know all that pua and success with women stuff. I used to go out with them a lot, but on the past few months I've been going home feeling like crap when I go out with them. I don't wanna be that frustrated chump who is there with his female friends while players pick them up you know? I really need some feedback on this. Should I stop hanging out with them? What do you think?I regret a lot of not approaching the girl last night beacuse of the commentaries of my friends. That was so beta of me, but the things they said really got me. And I dont want to be a chode sitting with the girls while players approach, I want to be the man who approaches,you know? I would like to find a way to improve my self and stop giving a sh1t. When I wanted to leave they said stuff and insisted a lot for me to stay there with them. They were telling me that they would drive me home and period, that I wasn't suppose to take a cab. Man, It was frustrating as hell, it was like they where treating me as their son, or a big baby or something. I felt pathetic and sorry for myself. I want to stop acting like a beta loser and impose myself when that happens. Be more alpha. I am really considering to stop going out with them. It was hard for me to get them to leave whitout me, but at least that I did. Then I went home feeling bad. What can I do? Man,
    I need help. It was the worst night of my life!
    Sorry for eventual grammar mistakes. Speaking from Brazil

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    Default Re: Need some feedback on female friends

    I was you in high school. Hordes of female friends, none of whom I'd ever seen naked.

    Your female friends keep you around for any number of reasons: they assume you're attracted to them i.e. keep them affirmed of themselves, they think you're gay, you buy things for them, hell, some girls just like having a non-sexual guy friend around to feel protected (I call this guy "the eunuch").

    So what do you do when you have a harem of hot female friends who are drunk on their own self-esteem and have no respect for you?

    Start negging them. Neg the s*** out of them. Tease them individually, call them crazy, push and pull. It will drive them crazy. Soon they'll compete for your approval and affection, and your alpha behavior will instill attraction in them.

    Good luck

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    Default Re: Need some feedback on female friends

    What do you expect when you go out to the bars with women? These girls sound like they have no intention of aiding you and advancing your cause. In fact, they are tearing you down and holding you back. When they see other women detracting your attention from them, then they will do everything that they can to bring you back under their control. That is exactly what they are doing. They are brainwashing you and playing you for the pet puppy that follows them around 24/7.

    I would even bother with them. "Friends" like these, as I have come to learn recently, cannot be turned. No matter what you do, they will maintain the same views and preferences against you. You're better off saying fark them and going on to do other things. I always take into the consideration the potential for a great change to come, where all of a sudden they see me for a new person, and they want to be with the new me. However, it has not happened yet, so I chill with my bros.

    So there ya have it man: bros before hoes. Get some guys to go with you to the bars, and make sure they don't try to take you down like the last two you went around with.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: Need some feedback on female friends

    You have to stand up for yourself and turn the tables a bit. If the situation of another girl making eye contact with you around them, respond to their assumption of her being a "B" by saying "Really? I have no idea how to deal with someone like that." Call them out.

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    Default Re: Need some feedback on female friends

    that was some damn good feedback. Thank god I decided to cut the crap and go away. Hahaa amazing! Thank you so much

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    Default Re: Need some feedback on female friends

    Listen man no matter how hot your chick friends are, if they treat you like that they aren't real friends. It's possible that the reason that girl was giving you the eye is for the fact that you were with those girls, giving you preselection value. But them dogging your game should be an indicator that they aren't there to help. Find a dedicated wing, a good buddy who you can learn with, or ask a friend of yours who is a 'natural' with girls and gravitate to him. Watch how he works, what he does, and how he treats women. Pick out what you like and use it.

    Secondly, it's not bad to have female friends, and in some cases a pivot (basically a female wingman) can be way more effective than your best guy friend. Also, for the being beta thing, that's totally internal. READ THIS! (http://www.puaforums.com/how-pick-up...html#post32252) .. It helps me all the time when I can't quite get into an alpha mindset. I read it atleast 4 times a week.

    Lastly, 3 second rule. If you get the eye, or see a girl you like APPROACH AND OPEN. There is no law against it, and no penalty for farking up, you learn a lot more from bad sets than good ones. Just go out and practice, and read the books by some of the main guru's and masters you feel aligned with. This community is awesome and totally built to make you successful. Go out there and be awesome bro. Cheers.

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    Default Re: Need some feedback on female friends

    I agree that "friends" like that sucks, but don't give up on them just yet. A group of hot women following you is REALLY good if you manage to take back the alpha role.

    As said above, NEG them, call them out on their bullshit. I said it somewhere else, but talk to them as if they were kids who just did something inappropriate, and you were the dad / the adult correcting them. Not angry, or lashing out, just correcting. "Oy Jane. Don't do this kind of things, that's not correct, I don't like that."

    They will probably fight back, even get angry, but don't back down, don't get angry, don't apologize. Don't lose your ground. She did something that was not correct, and that you didn't like. So you told her it was not correct and you didn't like it. You might lose a couple of them like this, but it's a good thing. And the ones who stay will be your best new allies.
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.


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