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    Default How to proceed with this one?

    Hello guys,
    So again I met this girl..I was invited at one of my good friends marriage last Saturday which was celebrated on an Island here in my country .I met a girl who happens to be the best man’s sister. Anyway we talk a bit at the church(teasing and laughing) and at the reception happened to be on the same talbe but at opposite sided. . I went to the reception with other people’s car and made agreements with them that we are about to leave very late So I thought I had plenty of time to game her and number close her. We talked at the beginning a bid and then as I was walking around I found an empty chair next to her and I sat. I started gaming her very openly and it was obvious that I was flirting her running solid game. I got that night too many shit tests on the row (which means I had built attraction) passing all of them by negging/ teasing or showing her authority. She came to the reception with a male friend of her and I found out that there where just friends from the elementary school (I used the how do you know each other question). I included also that guy in my game by having him qualify her or to increase the degree of my neg/tease . For example when I asked her from where does her name derive after her reply I teased her by asking her name is she were a boy (solid routine). After here reply I started tease her by calling her with his boy name etc Anyway she was responding well to my kino escalation by touching and realizing my touch easily. We danced together some traditional local dances, laughed a lot etc. So at a certain moment we took a picture together. I put my arm around the back and started to touch her hand very softy (you know what I mean for that) bringing her very close to me. My hands were not supposed to be in the picture since we were sited behind a table and she reacted well. She put her arm around my shoulder. When the picture was done I showed to her and said’’ That is a nice picture, isn’t ?“ She smiled and agreed. Then I said ‘’ Ok How could I send it to you? ‘’ I had a piece of paper with me and I asked her to write down her details. She wrote me her email address but when I asked her also for the number she told me no ‘’no I do not give my number so easily . I am a hard to get chick’’ . I left that frame as it was for the moment thinking to try again later for the number which was wrong Some time later I saw the person I had gone to the reception with their car they were about to leave . Those people came to me and told me that we were leaving at that moment say 2 hours before the original plan but still was late but not that late. Then tried again for the number saying ‘’look what if the email address is wrong of have another problem to send you the picture ? I will call you to arrange that with you ‘’ say replied ‘’no I do not give my number so easily . I am a hard to get chick’’ . The I said ‘’Ok just now stop the bullshits. I have eaten girls like you for breakfast’’. Then I said to his male friend .’’You should merry this girl so she will stop to cause me further troubles’’’ Then I asked her out the next day she said was going to be out of town etc. I did not believe her and told her ‘’ You are going to lose me ‘’ and I left. I think at that point I came out as a needy or other and destroyed a large part of the game. The following day we met her at a coffee shop for 5 minutes. II was walking in she was about to leave .We said just ‘’ hi’ and that was all.

    Now the question is how to move on. We leave in different cities and it take about a day of travel from my location to her city by train/ship and 1 hour of flight/ She is a dentist so it was easy to found her work number.
    I am thinking of the following options.
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    Send her by email the picture with a nice text. Nonetheless I don’t know what to write.

    B) Call her at her office which may be sound strange. I would like to avoid to give her the impression of a needy guy as well as to start to feel unsafe. Besides she might be be busy when I will call her and freeze me out.

    c) Send at her office’s address the picture by regular mail along with my old business card (my website is down anyway). Nonetheless, it is not very usual to send business cards here in my country and again I don’t know what to write on the back

    d) Something else not thought at the moment
    I forgotten to say the best man ‘s wife( a hb 9 got married like 30 days ago) leaves in my hometown. Her husband may come to the city to leave and we agreed to go out sometime together. Anyway having them in my social cycle with further target to may be an option but that is a long and uncertain path

    Please suggest what to do.

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    Default Re: How to proceed with this one?

    Before I get into the details of this, I can say that it would help a lot more if you separated this out into more paragraphs. Being in a state that is ready to go to bed, I lack the full concentration to go through one titanic paragraph of rolling details.

    Anyways, I did manage to read it, and I do agree that you farked it up for yourself when you became obsessive over the number close. I think it would have helped in your advantage if you turned the tables on her. You could have told her something like "Hmm, well that's going to be a problem, because I'm a hard to get guy".

    The overall goal in pickup should not be to bring the conversation under your complete goal. It's saying the topically right things at the right times to push the interaction to a favorable conclusion. That is what pickup basically is.

    As for your choice of what to do next, I would say D: Move on. You came off as too needy with this one, but keep her email around for a while. Maybe in a year if she isn't taken you can shoot the picture to her and start up a new interaction. In the meantime, go and game some new ladies and continue to hone your skills.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: How to proceed with this one?

    I agree with Swagman. The number close was a bit too needy. You were still flirting, teasing, and bantering at that time. You didn't reach a REAL level with her. And by that I mean you didn't build comfort. That's just asking her to play games with you when you asked for the number. If you had comfort and we're both open about your interest and intent with each other then you definitely could've gotten it. Building attraction should only take between 5-20 minutes. Any longer and your risk killing it or being trapped in that phase.

    Now, if you didn't build comfort you have to have a reason to get her number outside of just getting it. Asking her for the phone number to send the photo is pretty good. But try inviting her to an event that you're going to next time instead. It may help. You also could've responded with her objection of jot giving you her number by saying "Who said that I wanted to get you? Don't get your hopes up. You're not my type."

    You're next step? Do NOT call her office and do NOT send it to her office by mail. You will betray all the game you kicked to her and will come across as creepy. Wait about a week or two then send her the photo like you just came across it and remembered that you had to send it to her. But be prepared to walk away if she doesn't initiate a convo. Move on and keep practicing.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: How to proceed with this one?

    I agree with BatMan...
    "Easy there, just sending you a photo...you are clearly not my type" "you're too young for me" la la...

    I think you were trying to come in under the radar, which is fine but out of nowhere you asked for her number. She knew you were in her palm and just played hard to get. I think you should have started by saying

    "If you are lucky, I will send this to you. It depends if you can behave the rest of the night" A little teaser...You will be surprised how well women react to this.

    I say move on..she's far too.

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    Default Re: How to proceed with this one?

    I agree with swagman on the titanic paragraph and also the fact that this one went below the radar.you are experiencing this because you could get better.after a few sarges ...in the end it works.keep meeting new people
    Another thing you can do with attraction is also be in the moment.and watch out for iois.attraction may occur in minimal time.then push thing forward

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    Default Re: How to proceed with this one?

    Guys
    First please allow me to apologies for the long paragraph. I usually prepare the text in MS word and then copy/paste in the box

    Thank you also for the input Anyways. the point is that I had miscalculated the time I had still available. I had made agreements to leave late and all of the sudden people asked to leave earlier. That is why I rushed things and destroyed the game. Anyway it went how it went. Let's talk about recovery and what to write in the email...

    Perhaps I forgot to say that the best man ‘s wife( a hb 9+ got married like 30 days ago) lives in my hometown. Her husband(the best-man and the brother of the girl in question ) may come to my city to live/work and we agreed to go out sometime together. I will call him within the following days just to say hello. Anyway having them in my social cycle with further target to come closer to the girl may be an option but that is a long and uncertain path(if not a stupid one)


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