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Thread: Sticking Point: Not Getting a date after the number, even after the kiss

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    Default Sticking Point: Not Getting a date after the number, even after the kiss

    I'm a night game type of guy, and I use mostly Mystery/Style method with some Richard La Ruina. Last night I got three numbers and a kiss close. In the past I've done similarly. I know my text game is good, I usually come off with witty and surprising remarks.

    Thing is, I'm not getting dates. Sometimes the girls don't text back or I'll get one line back, follow it with another witty remark, and the nothing. I'm all about self improvement. I thought it might be building rapport...which I've been amping up, especially last night.

    Any ideas?

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    Default Re: Sticking Point: Not Getting a date after the number, even after the kis

    Are you getting to comfort with them? When in comfort you should be equals. She is relatively open about her interest in you and you in her. Not so much under the radar stuff at this point. This may help you out.

    It's possible to not get into comfort and still get the number, but it still means you have to build comfort over the phone or through text.

    The main thing is that you have to reach a real level with her where the games kind of die down. At least in her eyes. It helps a ton, but not always required. Just keep in mind, when interacting, about showing a genuine interest in her as a person and you should be fine. That's just hat qualification is for. To smooth the transition from attraction to comfort while making yourself a challenge.
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    Default Re: Sticking Point: Not Getting a date after the number, even after the kis

    You're right Batman, I appreciate the post; I think once I get into the zone of gaming I keep it up for too long, take it too far...however once I'm there it's fun so I'll have to learn to tone it down. Last night I made an effort to have deeper conversations using La Ruina's conversation techniques of motivation, emotions, and character traits, making statements and insights between questions. I think the comfort part is definitely my weakness though.

    Also I may be jumping directly into seduction without any comfort stage at all.

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    Default Re: Sticking Point: Not Getting a date after the number, even after the kis

    You diagnosed it perfectly. For a while I was getting the same, and I think a lot depends on the kiss. Every time we ended up basically making out I would NOT get a call or text back, when it was just a single kiss or two, I was at like 95%. It IS possible to get to sexual too fast and blow it, even if she leaves happy/excited. The next day when the lights are on it turns into "shit I made out with a stranger, that makes me feel weird" and even with tight game that happens.

    Once I sorted that out my next stepping stone was coming across as a "player" (translates to 'too good at attraction, too bad at comfort'". If you find that's the case have one "sensitive" story (I bring up my little cousin or baby nephew) that has NOTHING to do with pickup (except protector of loved ones) except to make her comfortable with you as a human (not just a pickup-womanizer). Slow down the banter and actually get to know her (qualify) and see if you like her BESIDES 'nice legs, cute face'. Make sure SHE feels human too.

    I know that's all over, just some thoughts.
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    Default Re: Sticking Point: Not Getting a date after the number, even after the kis

    I always had the most success getting dates when I set them up at the time of getting the number; reverse order. Get her to agree to go on a date with you and get her number to call her fifteen minutes before you arrive. After she's agreed to the date, a number means less, to her. Only use the number to confirm, while you are on the way.
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    Default Re: Sticking Point: Not Getting a date after the number, even after the kis

    Of course, I was assuming however that was the way the number was gotten
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    Default Re: Sticking Point: Not Getting a date after the number, even after the kis

    there something called overgaming attraction is in stages obviously when you have them attracted theres something you must do.personally kiss close is nothing and i don't mind waiting.unless of course thats what am on for.etc
    When you get the number one this you could do prior if set initial attraction to get you forward then amp via text, once your running game and getting ios via text such as
    lengthy replies, fast responses, qualifying herself
    push for the meetup stating time and place.Peace


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