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Thread: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    Aaron I am not an expert but since I have similar experiences I would like to give you some hints.

    I think calling is better than texting because it will be more difficult for her to reject you when she talks to you. Also you can create a good mood in her by being nice and by using humor so that when you ask her out she would be more likely to accept. Don't ask her out straight away, always talk to her a bit and then say "I am going to blah blah on this day and/or this day. I would like you to come along. which one suits you the best?... ah .. I need to mention that I want you to come alone". If you give her options she won't be able to reject you but if you give her the chance of saying NO she might say NO.

    Many girls leech on guys and take advantage of them. When a girl finds a guy who happily spends time and money on her in order to impress her, she will try to take the most of it. That's why she is bringing her sister. The thing you can do to 1- save yourself and 2- test her, is to ask her to go to a park or to the beach with you. If she refuses a simple activity date such as walking in a park or visiting a local market etc then she wants to take advantage of you. If she really wants to get to know you she would not mind a low-cost activity date.

    If you set your date for during the week, Friday evening, or Saturday evening you will end up spending so much time and money. So try to take her to a park, beach, local market, gallery etc either on Saturday morning or on Sunday. If she says no, put her in your "sh1t girls" bin and move on. I promise if you spend 10% of the energy that you use to get this girl on another girl you will get a better result.

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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    awesome! now you can sarge the sister too!

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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    Dude, you are going back on things!
    ..you farked her already. No need to be awkward about it. Next time she wants to chill...control the frame.

    You just said it you think she's using you, so use her. No point in pursuing a 'relationship'.

    cheers!

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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    hmm.. alrite ill keep that in mind, though like i said im gonna be the one to wait for her to contact me i think, and just out of curiosity after you said sh1t test you had well... not sure what you meant there
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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    sorry the last post was a reply to Hardrock, i had no idea that this thread made it to a second page

    aussiearef, i really appreciate you input on this, that sounds like an excellent idea, my only concern if i am to ask her for a casual thing how should i know if shes flaking or if she actually has something going on, also would her just coming over to hangout be considered a low cost thing, i also know that i could possibly f-close again

    Fuser...idk if i want a relationship or not with this girl i still would actually like to find out and yea ill take her to as many free movies as she wants if she keeps farking me but should i just be blunt and be like hey get over here, or if she asks me for a movie just be like not until we chill one on one again?
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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron go bragh View Post
    sorry the last post was a reply to Hardrock, i had no idea that this thread made it to a second page

    aussiearef, i really appreciate you input on this, that sounds like an excellent idea, my only concern if i am to ask her for a casual thing how should i know if shes flaking or if she actually has something going on, also would her just coming over to hangout be considered a low cost thing, i also know that i could possibly f-close again

    Fuser...idk if i want a relationship or not with this girl i still would actually like to find out and yea ill take her to as many free movies as she wants if she keeps farking me but should i just be blunt and be like hey get over here, or if she asks me for a movie just be like not until we chill one on one again?
    Okay, we are having an issue with controlling the situation here. Make her chase you a little bit. Push pull with her. So when she wants to see a movie "Geez, too late, take a #. Going out with this chick..." that is just an example. Let her know that you have options and she is lucky to chill with you. Once she sees that, it will be easy for you to dictate one on one.
    When she says she wants to bring someone tell her:

    "wow, I usually like my girls old enough to go out without a chaperone" Again, this will come easy once she respects your time and status a bit more.

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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    Aaron I am not an expert so I let other guys answer your queston in regards to flaking etc. In rel to having cheap dates, what I do is that for example if the girl insists on having dinner, I say OK SURE. Then i pick her up, drive up to a cheap takeaway, buy some cheap food, then drive up to a park and tell her "here is your open-air restaurant"!! You can even cook something super cheap at home and take it with you. something like a couple of boiled eggs!

    I think you should work more on avoiding girls from leeching on you. You can also categorize girls and have some alerts when you meet them, if this happens to you a lot. For example to me French girls tend to use guys so if I see a French girl something in my head says BEEP BEEP YET ANOTHER CHEAP FRENCH GIRL! Then instead of being blunt or trying to get away with them I choose a strategy which avoids me from being done up like a kipper! This sounds a bit harsh but it helps me anyway.

    One other thing that I do is to have cash on me when I go on a coffee/drink/dinner date. At the end, I pull out my money and put it on the table and say "do you mind sharing the bill?". Then they will have to pay their own shares. My policy is clear to me and I somehow clear it to them:" You won't get expensive dates before you sleep with me. Full stop!"

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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    i appreciate the advice again guys, espically your stuff their fuser i like the direction your heading with, she actually ended up txting me tonight kind of late, i told her i wasn't going out tonight but if she wanted to come over she could, she asked if i had drinks which i replied to yes, in my mind it seemed like it was just a another go around like the first time, so were sitting in my living room watching how i met your mother, were having light conversation, at one point i go in for the kiss which we do for a good like 5 seconds, she then politely either gestured or said something bout stoping or no, which i respectfully did,just kind of had more light conversation through the night

    if anybody has any good idea on body language or small suggestive gestures that i should pick up on but i just feel like throwing these two out here to see if anybody could tell me if they mean anything and if so what?

    at one point about 15-20 minuetes after our small kiss i went to the bathroom and upon walking back she had applied, i think its lip balm, whichever the one is that makes their lips really shinny and glossy...?

    later while we were sitting watching more how i met your mother, she was doing this thing with the straw, almost like squeezing it upwards, it almost seemed a little provocative but at the same time subtle and small and really could have been nothing, but then again she was playing with her hair a bit so really i have no idea

    im just really confused and honestly starting to get a little frustrated with this girl, im defently have no interest in really taking her out or really doing anything that involves me putting any sort of effort into her. Unless you all know of a miracle play that i should go with im gonna wait until she texts me again and see what she says

    im possibly considering next time she asks to hang out or come over to just flake on her and see if she seems interested enough to try for a second time

    the other possibility is to really just call it and cut my losses....in a bit of a stump again would really appreciate your guys input, btw your all extremely awesome for the advice all of you have already given me
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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    She just used the drinks as a reason to hang with you so it doesn't look like she sort of allowed herself to be there at that time.
    Next time you can test her by giving her water.
    Just say well i'll get you drinks in the morning...this can be a sort of playful thing.she called you late are you going to the movies then.Nope
    In your case she can't say well its late at night and i want to see this guy.She had to frame it

    im just really confused and honestly starting to get a little frustrated with this girl, im defently have no interest in really taking her out or really doing anything that involves me putting any sort of effort into her. Unless you all know of a miracle play that i should go with im gonna wait until she texts me again and see what she says
    This girl was touching her hair, playing with her straw and you want to go in this direction.Don't wait invite her to do other activities not ending with sex...this is key.you have a HUGE window.invite her out on a weekend maybe.think pool, walk, or a simple activity where you guys can talk.

    im possibly considering next time she asks to hang out or come over to just flake on her and see if she seems interested enough to try for a second time

    Take your time on that.you need to believe that if she has allowed herself to be there with you according to your dynamic which is pertinent she likes you at least..You are at a bridge.

    the other possibility is to really just call it and cut my losses....

    You may want to cut your losses not because you feel she is using you but you also like her on some level.As for the favors you can cut them off easily and you know it.Your already sleeping with this girl so your only problem may be managing feelings relative to your status..it happens but if you think you don't like her then use this as a learning sort of.both parties will be satisfied.cut the movies etc. instead lead by deciding where and when you guys to go out.sometimes let her know if you can't make it but suggest another time.When kissing be the first to pull away.Once you cut the favours you would determine for yourself.i think is she attracted though.

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    Default Re: asap please! thought i had a date but she wants to bring her sister?

    thank you i appreciate, to be honest though i may have been the one to really frame it, ill post a little of the texting convo

    her"what're you doing?"

    me "chillin at home playin COD, yourself?"

    her"just got off"

    me" hell yea how was work? i'm probably not getting into too much tonight but if your just trying to chill a bit im down"

    her" long and tiring. Thats cool i might stop by for a little do you have any brew"

    me "sorry to hear that, u at least good tips, and yea i do"

    small talk

    her " blah blah, so should i come over or what"

    and then she ended up coming over around midnight which it should be said that it takes her about maybe 15 minuets to get to my place, so it maybe could be saying something about her wanting to hang out with me at such a time and be willing to make the drive idk

    but also yea i would say i was actually the one to pretty much frame, and also we were just watching a movie at my house this time not a theater

    i also wouldn't say were sleeping together, we've only had sex once which was about a month ago at this point, but it was also the first time that me and her had really hung out so im wondering if im getting like anti-slut defenses or something, i know there is a word/phrase for it just not sure, basically trying to not come off as a " im not that easy for a second time type thing"

    thanks again for you input everybody
    fortune favors the bold


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