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    Default Wondering about truisms

    I'm still reading the book for the first time and yesterday, I came across the following part:

    "When I look at you, I can see exactly what you looked like in middle school. And I'm willing to bet you weren't so outgoing or popular then."
    Sure, it was a truism. [...] To seal the victory, I laid out one last beauty-neutralizing cold-reading routine. "I bet a lot of people think you're a bitch. But you're not. You're actually shy in a lot of ways."
    First off - who says that she couldn't have been popular in middle school? Half of the girls I went to middle school with were very confident and outgoing.

    Similar things go for the second part. Who says that she is definitely shy beneath her arrogant exterior? She could very well be the same on the inside as the outside and reply "Don't pretend like you know me just from talking to me for a minute. You don't know sh1t about me." (And actually... I think shyness and bitchiness aren't even contradictory.)

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    Default Re: Wondering about truisms

    With everything that is confusing you, and what can end up being a great weapon for PUAs is the saying Looks can be deceiving. In fact, during my meditations I came upon the realizations that almost everyone who I thought was popular in high school really were not. I may have thought they were charismatic, smart and a load of other things, but after a step back and a look through the lens of reality, I realized that they were overemphasized chumps that have gone down to a position most comparable to nothing. They were stale with no intuition, never changing or challenging themselves for higher. That's why they fell, and doing the opposite was the reason that I became so popular in my hometown this summer, even among strangers as I discovered when people I didn't even know were calling me out by name and telling me how awesome I was.

    We tend to create our own illusions of people, and the illusion of the majority is the one that wins out. That's why people that were perceived as popular back in the day are no longer so today. The explanation to the shyness-bitchiness dilemma is that we tend to create illusions about ourselves. Here is a quote that I heard from Chopped All-Stars by one of the competing judges that explains this pretty well:

    "We are our own worst critics"

    While we are quick to lash out, judge, and label the people in front of us, we rarely take a step back and judge ourselves. Those who are bitchy may have never even asked why they are so. However, the first step to solving the problem is recognizing there is one, and they may not readily admit that they are a bitch. They will try to find every reason outside of themselves, but in the end they will have to look inward to find the answer.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: Wondering about truisms

    I've thought about this for a while (obviously) but I have to say that anybody I have met after having grown up still was like they were in school.
    And whenever I talk to people about their childhood, it matches their current personality well. The geeky men usually were outsiders. The cute, yet thoughtful women usually didn't hang out with the popular girls but also weren't picked on. And as for the beautiful and shallow... you can guess.
    Maybe those I met were exceptions, maybe those who told me about themselves were lying... I don't know. It's just a bit weird to accept what one person tells you (alright, counting you, it's now two) when it goes against everything you've experienced so far. But... I suppose that is a central theme of "The Game" anyway.
    So anyway... I still appreciate your explanation, will keep it in mind and keep testing that theory

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    Default Re: Wondering about truisms

    Quote Originally Posted by TheShadow View Post
    I'm still reading the book for the first time and yesterday, I came across the following part:

    First off - who says that she couldn't have been popular in middle school? Half of the girls I went to middle school with were very confident and outgoing.

    Similar things go for the second part. Who says that she is definitely shy beneath her arrogant exterior? She could very well be the same on the inside as the outside and reply "Don't pretend like you know me just from talking to me for a minute. You don't know sh1t about me." (And actually... I think shyness and bitchiness aren't even contradictory.)
    You're overthinking it. Go out and test it. It may work, it may not. I think these are great truisms.
    A ship is always safe at the shore - but that is NOT what it is built for.
    ― Albert Einstein


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