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    Default I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    I'm only asking this because i've finally found gn LTR girl. I've always been very confident with my success towards women and never really seek out others input. Im the kind of person who think he can always do better. So I want to see others opinion for once and maybe seek out some flaws if there are any.

    Quick Rundown: I met her at the study rooms in my university, didnt run game, just natural and we agreed to study in the future and exchanged numbers...Here are the text's; 3 days after meeting her

    I called her first...no answer
    HB9: Hey! did you call me? I couldnt hear anything

    Me:Yea me neither, i wanted to see if youre studying tonight

    HB9: Yeah im going to be studying for awhile

    Me: Im gonna head over soon, are there tables open?

    HB9: The clubhouse study place is closed for today cause of renovations

    Me: Well ill probably go to the indivual study rooms downstairs...you can join if you like

    HB9:Thats where my friends an I are studying!

    Me: haha well thats where im about to be studying!

    HB9:Okay cool!
    HB9:Are you studying tomorrow too?

    Me: I might be, hbu?

    HB9: yeah tomorrow is my last night of studying

    Me: Im here come outside near the water fountains real quick!

    HB9; OKay im coming
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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    You're only building comfort, no attraction. It's gonna lead you to the friends zone unless you really step up your game and flirt a lot in person. I personally don't study with girls I'm trying to sleep with either, unless its at my or her house and the deadline to take the exam is pretty far away. That way if you guys take a study break to make out and have sex it won't be any big deal, as you still have x amount of time before the deadline.

    I'd recommend looking at the texts and asking yourself if the conversation is one you would have with a girl you have no interest in gaming at all. If you would, then don't do it. Its only gonna bring you into the friend zone quick.

    BTW what do you mean you found a LTR girl? How is it a long term relationship if you only just met and studied together? Do you mean a girl you would be willing to enter into a LTR with?

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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    Quote Originally Posted by OG_PlMP View Post
    You're only building comfort, no attraction. It's gonna lead you to the friends zone unless you really step up your game and flirt a lot in person. I personally don't study with girls I'm trying to sleep with either, unless its at my or her house and the deadline to take the exam is pretty far away. That way if you guys take a study break to make out and have sex it won't be any big deal, as you still have x amount of time before the deadline.

    I'd recommend looking at the texts and asking yourself if the conversation is one you would have with a girl you have no interest in gaming at all. If you would, then don't do it. Its only gonna bring you into the friend zone quick.

    BTW what do you mean you found a LTR girl? How is it a long term relationship if you only just met and studied together? Do you mean a girl you would be willing to enter into a LTR with?
    I mean she fits my criteria for an LTR. IN my opinion you shouldnt use game for LTR situations cause its all based on honesty. and with my style of play i used the study time together to build attraction...just cause were studying doesnt mean we cant conversate
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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    and besides its a process...build comfort first...then attraction.
    this was our first "hang out"
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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    Quote Originally Posted by JafariFTW View Post
    I mean she fits my criteria for an LTR. IN my opinion you shouldnt use game for LTR situations cause its all based on honesty. and with my style of play i used the study time together to build attraction...just cause were studying doesnt mean we cant conversate
    I disagree, "using game" is a loose term. It is just to get the girl attracted enough for you to decide what you want to do with her...whether it is a one night stand, a fck buddy, or a relationship. There's nothing dishonest about it, its just portraying yourself in a way that stands out from other guys and exudes confidence. Doesn't have to be dishonest unless you make it dishonest...

    Anyway, as long as you kino a lot and flirt when you guys are studying, it could build up enough attraction and sexual tension when you're with her.

    About not studying with girls, that's just a personal preference based on my experience. I went to a top tier university in California (graduated a few months ago), so many of the people (myself included) studied HARD. Like pop an addy and study for 12 hours straight, with not much conversation. Conversation during the study sessions always distracted both of us (and I liked to procrastinate to the last minute to study before an exam) and I couldn't really stop studying to flirt/game her. But like I said, its all just personal preference and maybe you're different.

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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    But either way I recommend looking into some text game. Your conversation that you posted is...boring, to say the least. I would flirt more, be more mysterious, and be more exciting.

    I tend to take the cocky/funny approach with girls which works wonders. It will build you up as an amazing and exciting guy who she wants to get to know, which will often lead to her chasing you. Then when you finally go out on a date, she'll know your intentions (as opposed to the study date) and it'll be much easier to get to the point where you want to be.

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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    Im well aware of text game, and I think we have different definitions of it.

    I used to try the cocky/funny routine, then i realized doing that made beta because i was thinking of ways to attract her.Think about it, you try the cocky approach to avoid getting one word texts as well waiting 2 hours for replies.

    You know the saying keep friends close, but enemies closer? Well in this scenario the enemy is uninterested texts from a girl. So in turn, we text them exactly whats on our mind, and though it may seem boring to you, it is seen as confidence by a girl...

    And we all know nothing is more attractive than confidence to a girl. I feel like my method get the girl to chase you.I forgot to mention she wws giving me plenty of IOI's b4 i got her number
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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    Im well aware of text game, and I think we have different definitions of it.

    I used to try the cocky/funny routine, then i realized doing that made beta because i was thinking of ways to attract her.Think about it, you try the cocky approach to avoid getting one word texts as well waiting 2 hours for replies.

    You know the saying keep friends close, but enemies closer? Well in this scenario the enemy is uninterested texts from a girl. So in turn, we text them exactly whats on our mind, and though it may seem boring to you, it is seen as confidence by a girl...

    And we all know nothing is more attractive than confidence to a girl. I feel like my method get the girl to chase you.I forgot to mention she wws giving me plenty of IOI's b4 i got her number
    -"Dependence is only a state of mind, Independence is a state of being, because in the end all we really have in the world is ourselves"

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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    Quote Originally Posted by JafariFTW View Post
    I mean she fits my criteria for an LTR. IN my opinion you shouldnt use game for LTR situations cause its all based on honesty. and with my style of play i used the study time together to build attraction...just cause were studying doesnt mean we cant conversate
    If you don't use "game" in a LTR, it will likely translate to a girl who is sleeping around behind your back. Of course, "game" isn't necessarily the same as game when you're out looking for an F-buddy, but as with that type of game, there are people who do it naturally and people who need to remain vigilant of their actions.

    Remember, girls are wired differently than guys with regards to this stuff. A guy in a long-term relationship has a tendency to become complacent. In fact, studies show that men in long-term relationships experience drops in their testosterone levels and these drops become even more pronounced after having children. Woman on the other hand, tend to want the same thing out of their relationship that they had at the start and a guy who becomes complacent can't give that.

    So the question is, how do you keep the girl interested? Well the answer for a lot of guys is "game." Things such as not placing the girl on a pedestal, remaining confident and secure with yourself, making sure you incorporate those things that attracted her into your daily routines, etc.

    The truth is, life is a game. Every human interaction we make can--and IMO should--be thought of in terms of Game Theory (in the economic sense). Once you start to look at life in this way, you realize that there are more prisoner's dilemmas in this world than anyone cares to admit.

    Some suggested reading for you would be Robert Greene's the 48 Laws of Power and then Mastery. If you're interested in the more economic and technical side of Game Theory, I'd suggest looking into the Evolution of Cooperation by Robert Axelrod. These books will show you exactly how and why Game Theory--and by extension, game--should be accepted and used in every relationship you have.
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    Default Re: I dont usually ask questions, but when I do...

    Quote Originally Posted by JafariFTW View Post
    Im well aware of text game, and I think we have different definitions of it.

    I used to try the cocky/funny routine, then i realized doing that made beta because i was thinking of ways to attract her.Think about it, you try the cocky approach to avoid getting one word texts as well waiting 2 hours for replies.

    You know the saying keep friends close, but enemies closer? Well in this scenario the enemy is uninterested texts from a girl. So in turn, we text them exactly whats on our mind, and though it may seem boring to you, it is seen as confidence by a girl...

    And we all know nothing is more attractive than confidence to a girl. I feel like my method get the girl to chase you.I forgot to mention she wws giving me plenty of IOI's b4 i got her number
    With the exception of the whole "text them exactly whats on our mind," which is bullshit because it will bore them, I think that your texting game was solid. It wasn't like the texting that a lot of people pump on this forum, but it created a chase frame and had her following you constantly. So good job there.

    As far as your theory that honesty is the best policy, as I said in my above post, I'm skeptical. Years and years of studying economics, law, and human relationships has led me to believe otherwise.

    I think that honestly expressing your wants and desires can be attractive because it's brash and confident. Girls aren't used to a guy who tells them what he wants/is going to do with them. That being said, text messaging is never the time to do that. Texting is not an inherently confident form of communication, and shows of confidence and honesty should be reserved for in-person interactions.

    Ultimately, texting should be reserved for short, fun, flirty messages and logistics.
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