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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    Below, I have feedback from the post, but it's a LOT easier if you have a question at the end to start the conversation.

    Such as "Could I have kissed her?" "Should I have stayed the night?""How did I do at the party?"

    I really want you to succeed, and improving the clarity of what you are asking is a huge help.

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    100% you could have made out with her in the bedroom. 75% chance you could have had sex in the bedroom.

    Great job being friendly with everyone. Yes, you are supposed to be social. Being a social friendly guys builds an incredible amount of comfort and attraction for girls.

    Correct, you should not have followed your target around all night. Be VERY careful gaming other girls at a party if you really wanted your target.

    There is always going to be an awkward period at the end, where the girl wants you to stay but isn't going to tell you to stay because she doesn't want to seem like a slut.

    Girls don't go on Tinder to build relationships, they go on Tinder to hook up. Tinder is known as the hook up app.

    Don't worry about her and other guys that aren't physically present in the room. You are the one in the room, so you are winning. Even if she likes another guy more, she will sleep with you if you escalate.

    Much longer game now, but still can sleep with her. If you are with a girl in her bedroom and she is ok with you being there, that is an IOI. That is a cue to escalate. Don't worry about whether she has toes pointing at you or arms crossed. Understand that she is in the same physical location as you, and it is her BEDROOM aka sex location.

    There may be plenty of good info in books about proper kino routines. Throw them out the window when you are in her bedroom and go for it.

    She gave you as many non-verbal signals as she possibly could. A woman will almost never say "Let's have sex." In fact, it's much more likely she will say "We shouldn't do this." Then start making out with you and have sex. That's how the game is played.

    Great work with meeting people at the party and staying away from alcohol if you were sick.

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    ok. i do have a question then. it kills me that i coulda gone for it. HOW do i go for it? i assume you don't just walk up to her and plant one or corner her.

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    also a thought just occurred (she was keeping all the coats on her bed so with that other guy and her sister there i figured there was at least another couple of coats so this didn't really register at the time). She said something like ill take you to get your coat or something and my mind went to "get your coat/i want you to leave now" so i figured joke and have fun and go but i did notice that her tone wasn't "get out" or anything and i remember thinking it was odd.

    *whats that word when you tell girls 1 thing and your body language says something else and everyone says its bad to do around girls cause its a huge turn off cause girls subconsciously don't trust you. I'm completely blanking. ill edit this if i remember.*

    it just occurred to me, she led me to the bedroom to get my coat. she literally *led me to the bedroom* to get my coat. while we were in there she started yammering about which was mine and she didn't actually hand me my coat (my damn instinct to just pick it up and be helpful) after she recognized the scarf as hers she folded it up and hung it in the closet while laughing at my joke. by now i had my jacket so we left.

    i also realized that if it in fact was her shooting for sex a) what should i have done, given that her room mate, younger sister, and sisters friend (?) were in the next room? b) what should i do on wednesday when i see her in class? c) does this mean what she was doing in our acting class actually was innuendo and flirting, for sure (remember i had asked earlier about the body language and our performances)?

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewkrs27 View Post
    also a thought just occurred (she was keeping all the coats on her bed so with that other guy and her sister there i figured there was at least another couple of coats so this didn't really register at the time). She said something like ill take you to get your coat or something and my mind went to "get your coat/i want you to leave now" so i figured joke and have fun and go but i did notice that her tone wasn't "get out" or anything and i remember thinking it was odd.

    *whats that word when you tell girls 1 thing and your body language says something else and everyone says its bad to do around girls cause its a huge turn off cause girls subconsciously don't trust you. I'm completely blanking. ill edit this if i remember.*

    it just occurred to me, she led me to the bedroom to get my coat. she literally *led me to the bedroom* to get my coat. while we were in there she started yammering about which was mine and she didn't actually hand me my coat (my damn instinct to just pick it up and be helpful) after she recognized the scarf as hers she folded it up and hung it in the closet while laughing at my joke. by now i had my jacket so we left.

    i also realized that if it in fact was her shooting for sex a) what should i have done, given that her room mate, younger sister, and sisters friend (?) were in the next room? b) what should i do on wednesday when i see her in class? c) does this mean what she was doing in our acting class actually was innuendo and flirting, for sure (remember i had asked earlier about the body language and our performances)?
    Its too late to edit it but i think i remembered that the word is non compliant or something like that, though now that doesn't sound right either

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    You don't need to worry about roommates being in the other room. Sex isn't that big of a deal to them. It's a big deal to you because you haven't experienced sex yet. For normal women, that is what happens sometimes after a party, so the sister and friend wouldn't have done anything, as long as the door was closed.

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    There is no shame in having sex. That is what you have to believe, and it is true.

    If door is closed and even if they do walk in on you two ..... It isn't like they are walking in on you playing with yourself, there are a lot worse things than people having the potential of accidentally walking in on sex. Example arrest warrants, speeding tickets, jury duty, a hang nail, the list goes on.

    It is ok you will understand what I mean when you get some. No shame in that I was 24, when I realized what I was missing out on. The I truly understood sex is like air only important when you aren't getting any.
    Learn to be a better person not a better player.

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    i believe you did well but dont hit her up anymore after the call you mentioned she appeared interested good but you followjg her on twiter is killing you since you see her post your constantly checking on her which is bad i also recommend you talk to a few more girls just to not put all your eggs in one basket.

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    I haven't actually looked at her twitter in a while. I'll send a text in a few days (that'll be 2 weeks) I figure it's over but it's worth a try. I figure focus on the other girls. I started a class tonight with a few cute girls and I've been teasing her a little. Not to mention the girl from my other class.

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    Default Re: Im in desperate need of help. time is of the essence

    Girl seems hot and ready to trot. Why not touch it.


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