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Thread: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

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    Default F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    Had some success at my work recently; felt this upcoming scenario felt promising.

    Girls invites me, only me, to halloween party. Wants me to dance with her. No. Felt up her ass. Made out with her. She has minor guilt trip.

    Says she shouldn't because she's 'dating' someone from work. Must be a 'guest'.

    Offer her jacket outside. (Clearly shivering). Make out with her more inside. More touch more kiss more "regret"... she disappears for a 10 minutes (must be on phone or text)...

    Eventually I wonder, is this a tell to go fark her or did I miss the boat. As I pass her to see wtf: cold shoulder. She tells me I should leave and escorts me to my car.

    She literally escorted me to my car at this party, and said you should go. I told her she's in no position to tell me when I should drive my car. I'm drunk and I'm not driving.

    She walks away. Wow c*nt x1000.

    I drove home out of spite. Potential drunk driving x1000 but I made it alive.

    Opinions? Be harsh. Thanks guys.

    Clarity: This chick was all over me. I was about 2.2 seconds from a F-close if you ask me. By not following and thus allowing her to reflect, seal my deal for failure?
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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    Nope no harsh opinions here from me bro. You did everything right sounds like you made not even the slightest error, your Inner Game was stellar to the core like a rock you stood in there. Now I am quick to point out people's problems but you got it going on dude. I guess we should chalk this one up to girl power. The epitome of a perfect ice cold shut down I hate it when that happens as I never have an exit strategy.

    "You should leave" she says funny thing is a fair number of girls said the exact same thing to me when seemingly nothing was wrong. I think she's just protecting herself or her image she decided you weren't for her and hey it happens you can't win them all in fact I only win about 30% of the time when I close and then when I follow through maybe about 50% so I win about 15% of all girls I talk to but even less if I mess up so more like 5%. But hey better than doing nothing.

    But I gotta give you something rather than nothing so might I suggest the slightest possibility? Again nothing you did wrong your part but judging "I'm dating someone at work" statement it sounds like a play on words because why would she be with you and not him? Makes you wonder right? Maybe it was a load of B.S. but either she sounds like relationship material and maybe she was expecting a flirty evening where you showed more of your potential and she may have sensed an incoming F-close and probably not in the mood but wanted a little more chemistry and dialog. Just saying she sounds like a tough nut to crack and that's my best guess.

    P.S. You didn't fail, failure is not a factor in this game. You tried that's all that counts in this game. For next time you know maybe to act a little differently based on your reference experiences you gain. With enough experiences in enough situations you start to recognize patterns and well pick up where and when to break through. But I'm sure you already knew that but a reminder never hurts.
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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    Yea, im with noctis, you're pretty solid in the game department, she was on the fence from the jump. What I can say in relation to situations like this is it may have been a sh1t test or an attempt to get back at someone else, which ccould explain the push pull from her end, I can definetly see her calling y0u once things didn't go her way.
    You can't miss something you've never had, but I can be sure she will regret her opportunity...

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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    Thanks guys. I'm sober now and less upset about it. Yeah everything went picture perfect. She just had LMR because of a 'boyfriend'. Can't really argue there.

    I even got as far as touching her... through her shirt. Damn it would've been nice .

    She was really having inner struggles. Going as far as telling me not to get more beer from my trunk.

    I think you're dead on with the assumption that I took it further than she ever though. She kept telling me how 'bad' I am, and how she hates me for doing this.

    The important part is that even though my busy schedule has prevented me from having sex in months, I didn't let it shine through and stayed as alpha as I can.
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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    If you still want her..you could use boyfriend destroyer pattern from speed seduction by ross jeffries..the thing about girls is that, like guys..they will always move for something shinier..including upgrading the current boyfriend..think about it

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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    You came off too strong.when you kissed you should have pulled.even though you got away with feeling up ass.she may have interpreted it as you were going there fast even if she liked you...

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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    It sounds like you sexually escalated in a place where sex could not happen. This will trigger her ASD hard and will blow guys out all the time. Its typically better to go for the short makeout and then to isolate her in a sex location to escalate further. You did a great job getting her buying temperature up and were very close to getting the full close.

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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomInVegas View Post
    It sounds like you sexually escalated in a place where sex could not happen. This will trigger her ASD hard and will blow guys out all the time. Its typically better to go for the short makeout and then to isolate her in a sex location to escalate further. You did a great job getting her buying temperature up and were very close to getting the full close.
    I agree with Tominvegas and Hardrock. Too much making out, so it released the sexual tension. Great job with how far you got!

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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    Yea what was said above, If you were in a place that it couldn't happen, Be the one to get her hot and turn down the F. Should leave her puzzled enough to follow you around like a lost puppy till you can isolate and close.

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    Default Re: F-Close Fail. Super Upset. Epitome of my failure.

    Don't call it a fail. It wasn't one. Would have been a fail if you didn't read her mood and got rejected from the outset. But you didn't, you escalated nicely and it worked but her LMR kicked in which has nothing to do with you.

    Calling it a fail will leave a negative mark in your psyche. This will be along the similar lines of criticising yourself so stop now and chalk it up as a success. I was going for a F-close to the point a girl just whispered in my ear that she wanted me right then and there but logistics were farked, we both live at home and I have religious parents. I had to walk away from a horny and wet girl. Still slap myself for that but I consider it a success so do the same and have that positive attitude.

    If you went that far this time then imagine the outcome next time you meet in isolation away from other people who might interfere with her defences.


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