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    Default Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    Little background. Got set up with a HB10 from a co-worker and her daughter. Out of the blue they sent me pics, gave me her number, and told me she was excited to talk to me. Good start. The girl is a solid 10. Hooters model, bartender, the works. Called her earlier today and got nothing. Didn't leave a voicemail. So I called back an hour or so later and left a voicemail saying "hey this is bballking, I called a little earlier and realized I never left a voicemail with my info., totally slipped my mind. My co-worker and her daughter told me to call, said you were a lot of fun so I thought I'd hit ya up, give me a call back, look forward to hearing from ya." I know the double call might not seem like good play, but I'm confident in my decision to do this.

    Anywho, got a text a couple hours later, didn't respond right away, and then got a phone call. I was in the store with my boy but answered anyway. Gotta admit, the nerves hit me pretty good. It was a bit of a rough start, interview like but after two minutes or so I played out of it, said "holy cow this is starting to sound like an interview. So where do you see yourself in 5 years?" Little banter, blah blah. Asked her what she was doing tonight. She said she was down for a couple drinks but she was going to her friends house to have them. (Sh1t test?) Told her right on, I'm with my friend at the store and probably couldn't do anything tonight. Asked her if she has to work tomorrow and if she wanted to hang before. She said "posssiblly." (another sh1t test I believe). Told her I honestly can't think of anything exciting to do in the day around here. Maybe a matinee but that's pretty lame. She laughingly agreed. So I told her I have some errands to run tomorrow and I'll call her after to see whats up. She said okay, have a good night.

    Again, I was pretty nervous throughout, and it occasionally showed up in voice. My first instinct was to text her a couple hrs. after the time I told her I'd call and say my errands ran long but maybe we can grab a quick lunch. Or should I just make the call anyhow and go for the lunch on time. Orrrr, scrap the lunch, make the call, and.... need an idea for something entertaining..? Help!

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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    I think you should use a bit of authoritative suggestions over questions..meaning.. Instead of asking her question about meeting sometime soon you should try something like 'Hey, I was thinking about this fantastic new restaurant downtown, lets go and grab something to eat at time x,' By using authoritative suggestions, you show that you are dominant and remember women admire dominant guys that take the lead..but you probably knw that I guess

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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    Quote Originally Posted by Bballking View Post
    Little background. Got set up with a HB10 from a co-worker and her daughter. Out of the blue they sent me pics, gave me her number, and told me she was excited to talk to me. Good start. The girl is a solid 10. Hooters model, bartender, the works. Called her earlier today and got nothing. Didn't leave a voicemail. So I called back an hour or so later and left a voicemail saying "hey this is bballking, I called a little earlier and realized I never left a voicemail with my info., totally slipped my mind. My co-worker and her daughter told me to call, said you were a lot of fun so I thought I'd hit ya up, give me a call back, look forward to hearing from ya." I know the double call might not seem like good play, but I'm confident in my decision to do this.

    Anywho, got a text a couple hours later, didn't respond right away, and then got a phone call. I was in the store with my boy but answered anyway. Gotta admit, the nerves hit me pretty good. It was a bit of a rough start, interview like but after two minutes or so I played out of it, said "holy cow this is starting to sound like an interview. So where do you see yourself in 5 years?" Little banter, blah blah. Asked her what she was doing tonight. She said she was down for a couple drinks but she was going to her friends house to have them. (Sh1t test?) Told her right on, I'm with my friend at the store and probably couldn't do anything tonight. Asked her if she has to work tomorrow and if she wanted to hang before. She said "posssiblly." (another sh1t test I believe). Told her I honestly can't think of anything exciting to do in the day around here. Maybe a matinee but that's pretty lame. She laughingly agreed. So I told her I have some errands to run tomorrow and I'll call her after to see whats up. She said okay, have a good night.

    Again, I was pretty nervous throughout, and it occasionally showed up in voice. My first instinct was to text her a couple hrs. after the time I told her I'd call and say my errands ran long but maybe we can grab a quick lunch. Or should I just make the call anyhow and go for the lunch on time. Orrrr, scrap the lunch, make the call, and.... need an idea for something entertaining..? Help!
    Hey, looks like you did great if she actually responded to a phone call from you. I hardly know any girls who will answer their phones anymore. I think drinks is a great first date. Don't think she is shit testing you. I think, she just doesn't have comfort with you since you two have never met in person.

    Is it possible to get drinks?

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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    Unfortunately I'm staying away from booze until spring. Trying to build up the confidence without it. I exchanged a few text with her throughout the weekend. Tried multiple times to get the meet up but failed religiously. In one of her last text she apologized for flaking and said she couldn't guarantee a meet up at any specific time, shes just too busy and we'd have to do something spur of the moment. I told her it was no big deal, its not, but I still wouldn't mind if this worked out. For pete's sake she's a 10!

    I lightly teased her in my last text to her Sunday, with a wink face, and never heard back. Haven't tried to communicate with her all week. The girl that set us up said she talked to her yesterday and she is still very much interested in meeting with me. I don't want to appear needy here, but I know I gotta try, I doubt she'll hit me up. Whats my next move?

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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    Quote Originally Posted by Bballking View Post
    Little background. Got set up with a HB10 from a co-worker and her daughter. Out of the blue they sent me pics, gave me her number, and told me she was excited to talk to me. Good start. The girl is a solid 10. Hooters model, bartender, the works. Called her earlier today and got nothing. Didn't leave a voicemail. So I called back an hour or so later and left a voicemail saying "hey this is bballking, I called a little earlier and realized I never left a voicemail with my info., totally slipped my mind. My co-worker and her daughter told me to call, said you were a lot of fun so I thought I'd hit ya up, give me a call back, look forward to hearing from ya." I know the double call might not seem like good play, but I'm confident in my decision to do this.
    Nooooo! Never EVER, leave a voicemail. You wanna call her twice, fine...that's a judgment thing. But this is literally one of only like five or six hard and fast rules of pick-up. Leaving a voicemail kills all the curiosity she has because she already knows who's on the other end of the line and why you called. No reason to call you back now, which is your opening to show of your great personality. Even in the circumstance you described, just send the girl a text. "Hey my name's ______. Soandso from (wherever you work) thought we were a good match. Nice to meet you ." Something like that, but obviously change the phrasing a little. Oh and as an addendum, I'm hoping your coworker told this girl to expect your call.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bballking View Post
    Anywho, got a text a couple hours later, didn't respond right away, and then got a phone call. I was in the store with my boy but answered anyway. Gotta admit, the nerves hit me pretty good. It was a bit of a rough start, interview like but after two minutes or so I played out of it, said "holy cow this is starting to sound like an interview. So where do you see yourself in 5 years?" Little banter, blah blah. Asked her what she was doing tonight. She said she was down for a couple drinks but she was going to her friends house to have them. (Sh1t test?) Told her right on, I'm with my friend at the store and probably couldn't do anything tonight. Asked her if she has to work tomorrow and if she wanted to hang before. She said "posssiblly." (another sh1t test I believe). Told her I honestly can't think of anything exciting to do in the day around here. Maybe a matinee but that's pretty lame. She laughingly agreed. So I told her I have some errands to run tomorrow and I'll call her after to see whats up. She said okay, have a good night.
    Honestly, I like your style. It's very aggressive and I think that's something that's missing when I hear about PUAs running game. However, a couple of pointers...

    *Phone game is kinda tricky but I'd learn to talk to have a conversation with yourself. What I mean by this is I ask girls simple "This or that?" type of questions, let them answer and then give my answer. I try to ask questions that we will probably have opposite (but not contrary) answers, EXAMPLE: "Are you more of a talker or a listener?" Girls almost always say "Listener" if you've presented yourself as a big strong man because they want to say that you're the talker so they know you're capable of taking control of a situation and be passive and cream their panties about getting farked by a powerful alpha male (or whatever). This way, you're making conversation but it's one you've had before so you know what you're doing, what is likely to be said (since the same plotlines tend to repeat themselves OVER and OVER in these types of exchanges if your frame is constant and solid) and you can use random openings in the conversation to go cocky funny and teasingly, gently mock her. That last part will make you come across as more confident because you don't have constantly have to assert your superiority and you build rapport while skipping an explicit comfort stage entirely because banter is the fastest and best way to build rapport. In other words, bantering REPLACES the comfort building stage (which is how you build rapport) so you can just go straight to seduction, ideally.

    *Why do you assume everything is a shit test? Honestly, I've RARELY encountered a true shit test. It's like the Loch Ness monster or Bigfoot or love at first sight...I mean you'll probably encounter it at some point, maybe a few times but not nearly as often as people on here would lead you to believe. Maybe I'm just dating the wrong girls and don't know what I'm talking about but I really think a lot of people are just jaded and that f@cks with their ability to critically evaulate information.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bballking View Post
    Again, I was pretty nervous throughout, and it occasionally showed up in voice. My first instinct was to text her a couple hrs. after the time I told her I'd call and say my errands ran long but maybe we can grab a quick lunch. Or should I just make the call anyhow and go for the lunch on time. Orrrr, scrap the lunch, make the call, and.... need an idea for something entertaining..? Help!
    *Get in the habit of dropping your voice when you talk to people (except for people who it would be a bad idea to do this to, because it communicates aggression/is a show of you being dominant over them). My voice was deep to begin with but I managed to drop it even lower by practice and force of will. You may be saying to yourself "BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER AS MUCH AS MY GAME!!!" It actually does, trust me. Just try to speak at a lower octave but not cartoonishly low. Eventually, you will either A) do it out of habit and no longer have to think about it and this will impress girls or B) your vocal cords will actually start to shift.

    *The last part of the last paragraph is a jumbled mess and I'm not quite sure what your question is. Without knowing you, you should do something low key and casual with lots of opportunities for kino. Bowling, pool (like billiards, not going to the pool), the standard ones people always recommend on here and then just go wherever the night takes you but don't put any pressure on yourself or her. This will be a HUGE learning experience for you with regard to picking venues that suit you. Some people can get away with just saying "Let's go to a bar" and make conversation for a couple of hours and still get the girl to go home with them at the end of the night, others are better with other kinds of dates. You'll learn what you like.

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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    Of course I b!tch about you being unclear and then leave you that mess of a second paragraph because I didn't proofread carefully enough. Two distinct ideas...

    *Learn to have conversations with yourself to avoid awkward pauses so you can do this UNTIL the girl is comfortable enough with you to open up and feels comfortable saying whatever she has to say to you (and trust me, women always have something to say hahahaha).

    * Second, use this or that questions which can be answered simply but also beg or invoke some kind of a longer answer or story or example. It forces her to talk and you to talk so you all get comfortable talking to each other.

    Get it, got it, good!

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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    Did you have an awesome relationship with someone in the past?
    Try doing what you did before that relationship. Forget about "HB10" of course she's attractive otherwise you wouldn't be attracted to her. But she agreed to meet with you! You're good, bro.
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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    Thanks for the replies guys, always nice to see some advice. However, I'm still stuck on this. I haven't talked to her in a week. She didn't respond to my last text, so I've been freezing; actually kind of hoping she'll text, but I should know better than that. I'm still caught up in what to do. Here are the three things I've come up with:

    A) Text her something to get a conversation going. I was going to text something like "hi there how many deer you shoot friday?" (it was opening day for deer season and I take it she doesn't hunt). I honestly hate texting for a convo but this might be my only option. Hoping for some texts exchange to keep me in mind, drop the convo, and then start another later on in the week.

    B) Hit her up tomorrow, text probably, and tell her I always like to have breakfast at this place on Sundays, and say she should come join me.

    C) Fark it, on to the next one. Don't get me wrong, I've been cold approaching other girls when I can, but can a playa please get a 10!?

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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    I'm very good at psychology and i read a ton of those dating psych books but i have 0 actual experience (due to circumstance not rejection) so consider that when u hear my advice.

    first, i didn't see any obvious shit tests. the first sounded like she wanted go slow and have a way out if it was fast. the second sounded more like either flirting or the same depending on how she said it.

    second, it seems to have worked out for you but everything I've read says if you leave a message it should be concise and make her think your desirable. truth be told, when i read what you wrote it felt a little rambly (just past the border) and i felt like you wanted her already. you don't really know her so you should know better. i think the friendship voucher is what kept that out but be aware of that. that said it might not be a bad idea to mention the people who set you up while your with her, especially if it slows down, to make her think her friends like you so she should have a more open mind/second chance/etc

    not responding to to the text is probably y u got the phone call. you undid any neediness and she got some.

    i actually agree with the double call and how you explained it, i just think you talked too much into her voicemail

    if your hanging during the day, my favorite idea for a day date (i haven't gotten to try it yet) is an art museum or bowling or pool. art is classy and cultured and theres always something to talk about so it never slows down. i don't like to bowl cause i suck but idk if u feel the same. think of it the way i think of pool. pool is good because if your good u can show off yet be humble, teach her how, etc.

    the books i read say different things but ultimately you should text her 5- 10 min before you are supposed to be there (so you know she's on her way) that you are gonna be 5 min late, order a drink, blah blah blah. that way she has to wait for you and you become alpha. plus wether she knows it or not she did a favor by waiting which means she's invested and will want to get a return so she will fight to make it work instead of giving up over nothing.

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    Default Re: Gaming HB10, need help here boys

    Quote Originally Posted by Bballking View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys, always nice to see some advice. However, I'm still stuck on this. I haven't talked to her in a week. She didn't respond to my last text, so I've been freezing; actually kind of hoping she'll text, but I should know better than that. I'm still caught up in what to do. Here are the three things I've come up with:

    A) Text her something to get a conversation going. I was going to text something like "hi there how many deer you shoot friday?" (it was opening day for deer season and I take it she doesn't hunt). I honestly hate texting for a convo but this might be my only option. Hoping for some texts exchange to keep me in mind, drop the convo, and then start another later on in the week.

    B) Hit her up tomorrow, text probably, and tell her I always like to have breakfast at this place on Sundays, and say she should come join me.

    C) Fark it, on to the next one. Don't get me wrong, I've been cold approaching other girls when I can, but can a playa please get a 10!?
    There's no reason to go Option C. C assumes the loss. Go out with flurry! I'd message: "Scale of 1 - 10. how are you right now ?" That will hopefully spark her interest so conversation can go. Unless she is really familiar with hunting, please don't do option A. Good luck bro!
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