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Thread: shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

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    Default shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

    So I tried the david deangelo approach of asking her
    "do you have email"

    She replies - "no I don't have email or phone"

    I used the david d answer "well do you have electricity"

    She replies - "are you really asking someone in this day and age whether they have email. blah blah.....what do you want it for"

    I don't exactly remember how I replied to that. But shortly after I said "I'd like to see you sometime, someplace that's not here" (she works in a small coffee shop inside a big grocery store)

    To that she said "See me ......as in like what" (SHIT TEST!)

    I said "I'd like to have coffee with you sometime or just hangout...."

    Anyway, she told she has a boyfriend. I'm not sure if should have said this or not "is that true or are you just saying that to ward me off". She then showed me her phone and her bf was in the background.

    I did a little bit of bf destroyer (not enough to make it effective, I need to learn about that). I said I'll see you around and then left.

    What should have I done to be more effective. Please feel free to rip me to shreds, I need this

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    Default Re: shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

    Email is creepy (don't care what david deangelo or anyone else says). Just go for digits.

    Don't say, "Do you have email/a phone"? Instead, use some variant of "What's your number/digits?" I usually just hand my phone to the girl and say, "Give me your number and we'll grab a drink sometime."

    If a girl shit tests you with, "Why do you want my number," just be honest. "I find you attractive and I want to see you sometime." You should only be asking for a number at a stage where she's already decided whether or not you're getting the number. So the shit test isn't even a real hurdle as long as you don't fuck it up royally.

    Obviously your response to the "I have a boyfriend" line was terrible. Go look up some bf destroyer threads on here for better material.
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    Default Re: shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

    Well you were too nice guy in your approach. You tried to appease her and she gave you a chance indicating the whole "BF" doesn't really matter. It's not really important until you fail miserably and they want to get rid of you that they break out the BF card. You moved too quickly not flirting at all and having no reason to approach her. You need to have a dominant will and learn to strike like lightning to handle most hot women. Learn that and you will better handle the battlefield of iceshields, cold shoulders, rejection, sh!t tests, and the like. It's not a very friendly place out there best to go prepared and bring your A game. Just go out and kick butt and say anything you want as long as you are able to back it up. You were just too needy. She wanted to know why you wanted it indicating she was leading you on which meant you had a chance if you had more frame control. Bring her into your world don't try too hard to win her affections. Remember build and then break rapport!
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    Default Re: shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

    One more thing..adding on top of what TheDuke has already said, after she gives you her digits and you make it clear that you wanna meet her..potential follow ups are "remember all I am offering is nothing but a stimulating conversation..I am not promising you much..we will see how our day goes about and hopefully be friends " when you meet, flirt with her, make sexual innuendos, play hard to get and tease her..make it clear that you are the selector
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    Default Re: shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

    If probably wasn't you or what you did... She did say she has a bf, lol trust me when I say that sometimes BF Destroyer won't work on some girls that have a bf. and don't take things too personal and you need some failures under your belt to get better so just be happy about that.
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    Default Re: shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

    Thanks guys.

    I just wanted to clarify that she did indeed had a bf. She showed me her phone background and he was in the background.

    btw, that wasn't the entirety of our interaction, I did plenty of dhv, neg, teasing, cocky funny, before I went for the email.

    The only problem is she didn't like the way I asked for her email and then of course I made the mistake of asking her if she really had a bf or she was just saying that to ward me off. So that's probably where I messed up.

    Keep it coming guys, I appreciate all the feedback. what could have I said in place of the 2 screw ups that wrote above ?

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    Default Re: shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

    Quote Originally Posted by kye View Post
    So I tried the david deangelo approach of asking her
    "do you have email"

    She replies - "no I don't have email or phone"

    I used the david d answer "well do you have electricity"

    She replies - "are you really asking someone in this day and age whether they have email. blah blah.....what do you want it for"

    I don't exactly remember how I replied to that. But shortly after I said "I'd like to see you sometime, someplace that's not here" (she works in a small coffee shop inside a big grocery store)

    To that she said "See me ......as in like what" (SHIT TEST!)

    I said "I'd like to have coffee with you sometime or just hangout...."

    Anyway, she told she has a boyfriend. I'm not sure if should have said this or not "is that true or are you just saying that to ward me off". She then showed me her phone and her bf was in the background.

    I did a little bit of bf destroyer (not enough to make it effective, I need to learn about that). I said I'll see you around and then left.

    What should have I done to be more effective. Please feel free to rip me to shreds, I need this

    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisCaelumPUA View Post
    Well you were too nice guy in your approach. You tried to appease her and she gave you a chance indicating the whole "BF" doesn't really matter. It's not really important until you fail miserably and they want to get rid of you that they break out the BF card. You moved too quickly not flirting at all and having no reason to approach her. You need to have a dominant will and learn to strike like lightning to handle most hot women. Learn that and you will better handle the battlefield of iceshields, cold shoulders, rejection, sh!t tests, and the like. It's not a very friendly place out there best to go prepared and bring your A game. Just go out and kick butt and say anything you want as long as you are able to back it up. You were just too needy. She wanted to know why you wanted it indicating she was leading you on which meant you had a chance if you had more frame control. Bring her into your world don't try too hard to win her affections. Remember build and then break rapport!

    Hey Kyle I want to commend you on following rule #1 ABC (always be closing) I really like what NoctisCaelumPUA is saying here. You probably havn't broken enough rapport with her and therefore haven't built enough attraction. A number is useless without an activity attached to it. Get her excited about an event that you are planning on going to in the near future. Tell her how awesome it is and how much fun she will have there. Then when she asks you hey can I go. Have her Text you first than give her the info. This way you don't have a fake number because you she is texting you.

    If you do all of this and she still hasn't provided you with feedback that she would like to join the event. Break Rapport and than build some comfort and pitch a different activity.
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    Default Re: shit tested on why *I* want her contact info

    The "Do you have electricity?" response cracked me up.

    That was some major sh1t testing going on. It shouldn't have gotten to this point though. So echoeing the above posts, what occurred before this was where things wasn't effective enough.

    Usually, when I talk to a girl and the conversation is going well, I try my hardest to break the conversation at the height of excitement.

    "Hey listen, [I gotta get going/get back to my friends/w/e], but you're cool and I want to continue this another time. Give me your number and let's talk later."

    This would've eliminated that sh1t test on why you want her number. And because it was executed at the peak of excitement, chances are it would've eliminated that BS answer of not having a phone.

    If she busts out the boyfriend card, depends on how she phrases it. One effective bf destroyer response that always got me a laugh is I would perk up and look really animated.

    "You have a boyfriend??? Oh crap! *look around inconspicuously* Does he know about us?"

    But the bottom line is this is all recovery stuff. In your situation, no matter what you say, it may have not mattered. Besides, in this case, she really does have a boyfriend. How much you wish to pursue her despite this, depends on how much you like her. Since you walked, no loss here, just experience gained.


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