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    Default Tips for a Hired Gun

    Warning, AFC Alert!
    A few months ago, I have already asked for advice for gaming a hired gun. So... it's still the same HB! Yeah, pretty pathetic...
    So, she is an extremely hot (at least HB9 but rather an Hb 10) bartender, who work at the basement level of my favourite bar. I started a conversation with her a few time months monthes ago, she responded well back then, it turned out she was attending the same scool I was, we were talking about what she was studying and what I am working, etc. We have always had brief convos, but I tried to DHV and stuffs. Once, I asked if a lot of guys hit on her at this bar - she said yes. I said yeah, one of my exes worked as a bartender here, and she had the same experience. Other time, we talked about the customers she had, and during the conversation, I mentioned that she is pretty, so she must get much more tip than the ones who doesn't look so good - and she just blush a bit, quietly saying thank you.

    So, I haven't met this girl for weeks or months - I always ended up sitting other places of the bar with my friends. But today, we were at the basement level, where she actually works as a bartender. First, we ordered beer, noting special, but she looked at me as she recognized me. At ordering the second round, I ask if her name is "Nori" - because a few weeks/months ago, I asked her name and she told me. I made a few short jokes, she laughed. Every other time we ordered something, we talked a few words - and she smiled at me, responding every time - some cases she said something without asking. Once, I asked if she may be tired of bar and stuffs because working here all week, and she must avoid places like this bar with her boyfriend or girlfriends - she said yes, she was trying to avoid bars, going some better, more classy places. There were a few conversations like that, once, when I didn't started anything like that, she gave back my change saying "Oh, I gave you my lasts" - and she laughed what I responded.

    She is a hired gun, so I'm not sure if I was getting her IOIs good, or she is just dealing with me as a normal customer. My friends who were with me said she definitely likes me. One of my friends went to her asking about the Wifi code and tried to start a conversation with her - but he said, the girl didn't responded as well as she responded me in the same situation, and that he didn't get that much attention.

    Finally, at the end of the night, I just acted like a pussy - went home without even trying. It was in my head to go to her asking "Ok, so you are fed up with bars... what about coffee shops? Let's grab a coffe, give me your number" - but I was chickened out. What do you think, should I have said this? I was afraid that she is so hot, she must have a boyfriend... I know I acted like an AFC. But I must ask, what do you think - was she sending me IOIs or just treated me as a regular customer? What shuould I do when I go to this bar the next time?

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    Default Re: Tips for a Hired Gun

    Hired guns are tricky in this regard. However, your friend tried having a conversation with her and didn't get that same feeling that you had with her. I'll say that she likes you on another level besides being just another customer.

    Regardless, I would have asked her out. Worst case scenario is she would say she isn't interested and you'd move on.
    Always be honest with women. That's the true meaning of a PUA.

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    Default Re: Tips for a Hired Gun

    Tough to know whether IOIs are real or not. Probably are. Your friend asked a really weird question for a bar, so it's very difficult to compare his interaction to yours. Wait for her to bring up the boyfriend before you let it be a roadblock.

    Next time, start where you left off. Find common activities you like to do together and number-close her on an activity you're going to do together rather than just asking for a cup of coffee.
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    Default Re: Tips for a Hired Gun

    Some UPDATE:

    Me and my friend were planning to go see a movie, but missed it, so ended up this ver bar again - where this discussed HB is working.

    We went to the bar, and of course, there was she. I said with a big smile: "Hi Nora" - maybe I've mentioned before, that she had told me her name a previous occasion. She repaid the big smile, saying hi. It could have been a perfect time to finale game and #-closed her - I know it is typicall AFC, but there was a guy sitting there, and before we arrived, she was talking with him - and that just took away my intention to finally make a move. It went like this:

    ME: It might be surprising, but I'm gonna have a beer.
    HB: You're gonna become a regular, soon.
    ME: Yeah, although I try to come here as rarely as I can.
    HB (with a smile): Oh, thanks...

    I went to order the next round later. The bar become pretty crowded by then. I ordered 2 glass of beer.
    HB: Oh, only glass? How is it that?
    ME: It's getting late and I'm working tomorrow. And you know, I like to live dangerously.
    HB: Are you working on Saturday?
    ME: There are News every day on television.
    HB: So you are working on that?
    ME: I was scheduled so yes.

    At this point, a guy who was standing next to me noticed what I just said, and started a conversation with me about this whole television-media etc. He is woring in this area too, and looking for a job. So shortly after he asked for my number because of this job reason - during this, the HB was preparing my order. I gave my number to this guy, while saying: 'Ok, I usually exchange numbers with girls, but yeah, sure'. The HB heared that, and just start laughing. She said: 'Well, you are both pretty boys...' Me: 'So you allow this and become our patron, right?'

    And pretty much that's all what happened. I have some guess, but I'm not sure:
    She started a conversation with me both time I ordered, so I think it might be an IOI. The little scene where the guy ask about my job and adked for my number could be a DHV - because of being social, leader of men (or 1 man this time). But I'm not really sure, I mean she is a bartender, of course she smiled at people and talking to them. What you guys think?
    Ok, I know, the real thing would have been #-closing her, and I can't avoid doing that if I want anything with her - but still, every thoughs and notices are welcommed.


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