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    Default Reducing Flakes from girls on POF

    Hey guys, I haven't been on here in a while. I have a question about online game. I've been getting dates from POF, but I find girls flake more often than when I meet them during the day on campus/stores/etc. I know that creating a moment between me and a girl reduces flaking. However, with online where I'm on the other side of a computer, how can I build the same rapport and make her more intrigued/committed to D2?

    Thanks guys. All suggestions are welcome.

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    Default Re: Reducing Flakes from girls on POF

    POF is a whole new can of worms. I usually steer clear from POF. It's really a hit and miss. And when they say "Plenty of Fish" what they fail to tell you is "Plenty of Bottomfeeders" I've heard of guys getting scammed of money and a friend almost got killed.

    Theres' numerous guides here and T-Mal posted some great things on what to say and what not to say when it comes to online dating. Look up his stuff.

    First of all, it's not so much about establishing a rapport, it's about standing out from the dozen of boring hits like "Hey there."
    It's demonstrating value that you are a fun person. Always be flirting. And most importantly, you don't want to get stuck with fluff talk. You want to move it to a phone/text game and set up logistics to D1. If the girl likes you and thinks you are cool, then she will give out her number.

    There's things to know about preventing/minimizing flakes and it is same as the numerous things I've posted about flaking. That is when demonstrating the value of your time comes into play. You want to come off that you have a lucrative schedule and it is you who is fitting her into your schedule.

    An aggressive approach to weed out flakes completely is
    1. Find out what her schedule is like.
    2. If she says she is busy, find out when will she not be busy.
    3. If she can't give you a definitive answer or is iffy or says I will call you or call me back...Axe her by saying. "It's okay, it's clear that you are not interested enough. It was nice meeting you."

    What you've done is here is you demonstrated value. It's either a "fvck yes" or "no." And you weeded out a possible flake.

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    Default Re: Reducing Flakes from girls on POF

    Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. I really like that aggressive stance. I've encountered many similar situations of "I'm not sure yet, but I'll let you know for sure later". Which at this point I already know is a future flake. Your stance shows that your time is valuable, you won't wait around for her and that you're confident and not a pushover.

    I've noticed recently that I tend to give too much available time when a girl can't hang out the first night.

    Ex:
    First night we're supposed to hang out and something comes up or the logistics are flawed and it doesn't work out.
    I try again for the next night and if she's busy, that's two nights I've invested in.

    Learning pickup is such an interesting concept. I love the continuous building blocks. Thanks again for the feedback.

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    Default Re: Reducing Flakes from girls on POF

    I can honestly say I've never had a girl flake on me, when I met her online.
    But my whole approach to online dating is different than most guys would do.

    I get several girls interacting with me all at once & I spend time flirting & chatting with all them. So, when one is really busy & doesn't have time to reply to messages / texts, I'm getting messages from a few others.

    I'm in no hurry to rush anything, but I'm constantly flirting & escalating the interactions; so that when I DO tell a girl I want to meet her, she's totally on board & excited about it.

    This has also allowed for several of those first dates to end up in bed. (Because of the flirting & escalating during the text exchanges)

    You have to be classy when you're bringing up the subject of sex before you've ever met up with a girl... but you also have to be bold & confident.

    It has to be playful & fun... and using innuendos in the beginning is a great way to introduce the idea.

    The key is, don't expect to meet every girl you chat with.
    But focus more on the ones you're REALLY interested in.

    The others are great to have as texting buddies to get more experience with & try new ideas on, when you're still putting your "game-plan" together.



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    Default Re: Reducing Flakes from girls on POF

    Thanks T-Mal. Good points.

    I'm texting three girls right now from POF. Meeting one Wednesday night and the other Thursday. I definitely try to keep a source of at least 3-4 girls I can text/hook up with for constant practice. As far as introducing sex, I think I'm doing this well because the girls actually compliment me on my confidence and ability to just be forward. It's awesome.

    I think I'm looking too far into it though. My date Sunday fell through due to logistics, not errors in game. All these tips are definitely helpful moving forward.

    Keep on sargin' b'ys


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