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Thread: About the overuse of routines + help

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    Default About the overuse of routines + help

    Hey mates,

    I am writing here with a two-fold purpose:
    1) I suspect that the various routines we all know have been overused and are actually counter-productive, and would like to ask for your opinion;
    2) I also need some advice about a HB I met.

    The context:

    The expatriate community is quite active in the city I live in and there are plenty of meetup groups. There are literally groups for everything and it is an easy way to meet people (and chicks of course, hehe).
    Sometimes, I go to some events just for the heck of it. I don't necessarily expect to meet someone interesting. It's hit and miss if you go there with all sorts of expectations.
    So, I went to one such event yesterday with a female colleague of mine. I actually try to bring her along most of the times as she's an excellent wingman (she's on the lookout for guys too).

    The questions

    1) I would say my colleague is a HB 7-8 and a lot of guys actually approach her during such events. I have seen some guys who had solid game (even though that led them nowhere as she is quite picky), but the majority of the guys are creeps. For example, one dude approached her yesterday and then accompanied her to the bar to fetch a drink. Then, out of the blue, he asked her to hug him... Anyway, as it didn't work out, he introduced her to another friend of his so that he might try as well. The other dude was more confident. He even pulled a routine on her (basically, she had to choose a priority order amongst several emergencies that happened at the same time: baby crying, phone ringing, doorbell ringing, etc.). Apparently, each of these things represent something (love, family, friends, etc.) and the priority order she decides determines which aspect is predominant in her life.

    Anyway, once the guy left, she told me that she immediately saw the game he was playing. Even though I had explained her the concept of routines a while back, I think she is quite perceptive, so that trick wouldn't have worked on her in any case. And she actually suggested me to avoid using routines as they will hurt my game.

    That made me think for a bit. I don't have a lot of experience, but I have to say that whenever I pulled out the cube or ring routine, it worked wonders for me. The girls I was talking to were captivated and listening very carefully. With good eye contact, the routine works like a charm. In one instance though, where the girl was probably not attracted to me, it was just a nice conversation filler and didn't help change her opinion about me and make her see me differently.

    So, what do you guys think? How do the various routines work for you? Have you ever been caught by a girl who had already heard about it? My opinion is that, if the girl is attracted, routines can help boost your game. If not (just it was the case here), she will just play along but without any results for the guy.


    2) So, I met a very nice chick yesterday and I even number closed . The question is that I am not sure how to take it on from here. The event was some sort of language exchange meetup. The girl was sticking to me during the majority of the event as she wanted to speak French with me (there were some other French-speaking dudes, so it seems like a good sign that she stuck to me ). The only thing is that I am afraid she only saw as some kind of "tutor" and it might be difficult to move to the next step.

    The problem with these meetups is that if you start gaming and flirting from the beginning, girls dismiss you (I know from experience, trust me). So, it's better to wait for one-on-one opportunities. Since we work in the same neighborhood, I could propose to meet for lunch break or for after-work drinks. Any ideas of things I could exploit to bring us closer?
    I am still a n00b when it comes to flirting, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance, mates!
    Cheers

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    Default Re: About the overuse of routines + help

    I recommend learning to get away from "routines" as soon as possible.
    They're great when you're starting out & helping you break the ice & approach, but they're not necessary.

    The key is to be confident, fun & flirty.
    I have a couple threads that may be helpful to you:

    All about Flirting
    Assume Familiarity
    And this one that demonstrates another example of just being flirty & fun.




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    Default Re: About the overuse of routines + help

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mal View Post
    I recommend learning to get away from "routines" as soon as possible.

    The key is to be confident, fun & flirty.
    Word.

    Avoid falling into the trap of the "game frame".

    If you can, just be a normal fun social guy that spices up all his conversations with banter, stories, good questions, and who isn't afraid to escalate with women. You'll be ahead of the vast majority of guys in pickup.

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    Default Re: About the overuse of routines + help

    pepito, I use routines heavily. now most of my routines are my own, so the chance of anyone knowing then are practically zero. I use routines specifically for one reason. my stack ( series of routines) starts with fun and builds to a sexual crescendo very quickly. I can melt a woman's panties off and make her chase me in 30 to 60 minutes. Routines can be a powerful weapon in your arsenal or they can be a handicap, it's up to you really.

    http://www.puaforums.com/pick-up-fie...pectation.html


    http://www.puaforums.com/pick-up-fie...e-10-30-a.html


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