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Thread: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

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    Default Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    Ok, so here's the situation.

    There's a hot bartender in my favourite bar, a solid HB black hair 9. Incredibly cute and also very funny and clever. I've been working on her for a while now, and I've already built comfort and (at least I hope) attraction in the few months.
    I was managed to massive DHV on her, reat social proof, and some preselection. She has recognize me for a while, treat me differently than other customers - of course, she's a hired gun, so I could never be sure, but I'm kinda sure of it.

    I've decided, that tonight is the night! Middle of the week, the pub is not completely full, I have enough time and possibility.

    She told me her name some times ago, so I've been calling her in her name with a big smile for a while. I did it this time again, ask for the first round, nothing special. After a while, I went to the bar alone, and started a conversation wth her along with a whiskey. Has a great talk - tested her a few times if she carry on the conversation when I shut up - and she did it every time. I just wanted to run the 5 question game on her, when a staff member came to her, and started talking with her. I wasn't able to hold the conversation - yeah, AFC-alert, ask for two beers for my friends and left. But I decided that I tried to close her when I'm leaving, one way or another.

    She wasn't at her position, so we have to waited for her. Standing at the bar with my friends, we decided to order an other, last round. Order vodka, sip it, and my friends left, as we had discussed it. And I finally pulled made the move:

    ME: - We wasn't able to finish the game, let's grabe that one coffe per day together next time (we talked about how we both reduced our coffeine intake for one coffee a day). What's your number?
    HB: (with a big smile): A-a, can't give out my number, bartender-policy. Facebook?
    ME: (with a strange look) I can't give out my number for anybody neither. No facebook, phonenumber.
    HB: Noooo... e-mail?
    ME: Ok....

    She writed down her e-mail address, we high fived, and I left, with big smile in both of our faces.

    So... I wasn't able to hold the conversaton previously the night, that's AFC. But I'm kinda sure of what I've builded up before. She refuse to give me her phone number, that's bad also, but it was her, who offer her facebook instantly, and after I refuse that, her e-mail address. On the other hand, as far as I remember an other bartender gave her number to a dude a couple moths ago, so maybe it' not restricted. Maybe childish, but she wrote down her e-mail address with using a little hearth in it.

    So my questions are: what do you think guys? Did I screwed this up? How should I carry this around? What should I write her?

    I am completely clueless, not knowing what to do. Also, she is working almost every day and go to college also, so it is probably difficult to set up a date, buit she is incredibly hot and cute, so I must try.

    Thanks in advence guys!

    Adam

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    Default Re: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    Well good progress, I mean if you are really preselected and had good social proof you should have gotten the number. I think she would have given it to you.

    Hired guns will always automatically say no the first time you ask. Then you tease them for a bit, tell them they lost their chance run a little jokes and they will beg for you to take it.

    I have had pretty good success picking up waitresses. I would say for now, don't email her. Just drop by another time and run your game. Make it a fun game/

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    Default Re: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    Next time just give her the phone,and tell her to type it in(use time constraint,I switched to natural a long time ago,but time constraint works.) .If she starts making anymore excuses,tell her : "You're not giving me the number,I'm taking it".

    If she still refuses,don't be needy,since you used a time constraint,tell her that you gotta go and move on.Getting a number should be relatively easy,there's no reason to chase her for so long just to get a number.

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    Default Re: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    So I should just drop the e-mail address, and shouldn't send her a message? I was thinking of a fun random message.

    To be honest my first though was to et her number on e-mail, but I drop it pretty soon - too beta and needy.

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    Default Re: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    [QUOTE=Ra1d;115814]Next time just give her the phone,and tell her to type it in(use time constraint,I switched to natural a long time ago,but time constraint works.) .If she starts making anymore excuses,tell her : "You're not giving me the number,I'm taking it".

    I like this one Raid: "You're not giving me the number,I'm taking it". Smart ass lines like this are too fun.

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    Default Re: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    Her comment about "bartender policy" and not being able to give out her number was likely a sh!t test of sorts.

    She was probably trying to see how confident & persistent you would be.

    You did well by calling her bluff with the no facebook approach, but you should have pursued the number anyway. I think she wanted you to do that.. (Unless there are different laws/rules in Hungary than here in the USA... ?)

    If I were you, I'd keep up the playful interaction over email... then get her Facebook info... and then the number.

    It sounds like there IS some interest on her part. But she's picky about who she gives her number to... and that's not a bad thing.

    She wants you to work for it and that's OK because, you denied her original Facebook offer & made your own stipulation.

    This is a smart girl. And this is totally they type of girl I'M personally attracted to & look for.

    A girl who is a bit of a challenge is awesome! I say go ahead & email her & start flirting & keep building more attraction. You have zero to lose & potentially a "jackpot" to gain.


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    Default Re: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mal View Post
    This is a smart girl. And this is totally they type of girl I'M personally attracted to & look for.



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    So we have the same taste bro Very helpful respond, as always, thanks and thank all of you guys!

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    Default Re: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    Indeed!
    I specifically designed my style of game to attract smart, witty girls with great humor & intellect.
    Whether it's online, or real life, I can tell which girls I'm gonna gel with the best.

    And just because a girl is a bit of a challenge, doesn't mean she's in control of the frame.
    In fact, that usually means she just bought into MINE.



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    Default Re: Finally closed bartender, only give e-mail address. HELP ME OUT GUYS!!

    So I wrote her a fun random message - I wasn't sure if she knows my name or not, and I didn't want to qualify myself through e-mail like "Oh, I don't know if you remember me, it was me who asked for your number but getting your e-mail address" - so I wrote and refer to stuffs we talked about last time, when I got her e-mail address.

    But she didn't answer anything... so I guess I shouldn't be worry, just play casual when we met at the bar again, tease her a bit and go for the number again? I usually walk away after rejection or passive resistance, but as we discussed, she really is my type.


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