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Thread: White Knights/Butthurt Moralfags

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    Default White Knights/Butthurt Moralfags

    So most recently I was out at The Hemingway when I got called over to a table by which had about 6 guys and girls sitting around it. I'm 6'8 so girls love talking about my height and taking their pictures with me. They asked for a picture and I agreed but that I charged $5 per picture. After a minute or so of talking to the group, I noticed a guy who hadn't been talking much. I started a conversation with him and he immediately called me a faggot and told me to "get the fark out of here". I told him that it's ok to be jealous and tried to give him a high 5. He stood and told me I had 5 seconds to leave or else. DUN DUN DUN!!! So I took off back to my table and he ended up getting thrown out of the place an hour later. The girls ended up coming over and apologizing later on.

    I've just noticed recently that I, or my PUA friends, have been getting called out a lot. Either for intruding someone's space or for just being too eccentric, etc. And it's not subtle either. It either escalates to the other party seeming like they want to fight or them trying to change our ways.

    So my intention with this thread is for people to share some stories or experiences that they've had similar to mine and how they've dealt with it.

    -Noah
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    "We're the guys you don't introduce your parents to."

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    Default Re: White Knights/Butthurt Moralfags

    Very interesting. I usually find myself in some sort of trouble, but I usually tend to meander my way out of it. I roll solo so I ALWAYS try to avoid fighting, not because I'm scared of fighting someone one on one, but I know how bitches LOVE to roll in groups.

    So I'm out one very cold Saturday night when I decide to hit one of my favorite local bar/clubs. I'm not to big on alcohol so the most you'll typically ever see me down is one beer, two tops. Once I find my way into this place, I head straight to the bar and buy myself a miller. An hour or two quickly passes by as I make my rounds doing the usual. (approaches, establishing social proof, and my favorite part, dancing)

    As I'm on the dance floor busting a move, I see a 6 set out of the corner of my eye; 5 women and 1 man. I dig deep into my belly and within seconds I shock my body into "game mode." I make the approach. I open 4 of the 5 women, and introduce myself. To be fair I didn't know the 5th woman and the guy were even apart of that set initially, so I ignored them.

    After chatting the 4 women up for 3-4 minutes, they tell me that the 5th woman and the guy are also apart of their group. I turn and introduce myself to them speaking to the man first:

    "Hey, I didn't know you guys were apart of this group too! Talk about rolling deep. Lonnie, nice to meet you" *extend my hand for a handshake*

    The son of a bitch just looks at me. I then move on to the girl he's with to introduce myself to her, and he sort of just gets in my way. She moves past him and introduces herself to me anyway. This asshole now moves even closer into my personal space, and says who the fark am I.

    Me: Easy there bro, I come in peace. If this is your girl, cool, I was only introducing myself to you guys, so let's try this again. Hi, I'm Lonnie. *extend hand*

    Other guy: *death stare into my soul* I'm not your bro. *pushes my hand away*

    At this point in time I realize this guy is either A) drunk or B) stupid as shit. I won't sit here and lie, it wouldn't have been an easy fight simply because he looked like the rugged type who'd do anything to win a fight, but I would have won because it's rather easy to distinguish between those who can and those who cannot fight, once you've been fighting for years.

    So when this asshole pushes my hand away, my logical side beats my angry side to the punch, and I decide to analyze the situation logically. I gain nothing from putting this man in the hospital except jail time. This 5 set wasn't all that interesting, and his girl already wants me *she was giving me anime eyes the whole time* Let me just walk away. I completely turn my back to the guy, and tell the 4-set of women I can't believe they hang out with this guy. I tell them once they ditch Brock Lesner to come find me later on in the night, and I leave. 3 of them approach me later on in the night including my original target. I was already in another set, so I let these girls off easy. I didn't exactly blow them off, but I let them know through my body language and such that I'm no longer interested. Why you ask? They never apologized for their friend. That tells me A LOT about their personality and I want nothing to do with that. I ended up going home empty handed that night, but if I could go back in time, I still would have blown off those women. It's called being selective.

    That is one story of MANY! Fighting is the last case scenario because I roll solo. Last thing I want is a bottle to the back of my head when I'm kicking some guys ass, only to wake up bleeding out in the backway of some street alley.

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    Default Re: White Knights/Butthurt Moralfags

    Great topic. If you spend enough time meeting women at bars and clubs you are going to encounter guys on a regular basis that will challenge you. Every now and then you'll get one that is exceptionally confrontational. To be clear on something, women do like bad boys but they don't like guys that lose control. Once you try to fight a guy over a girl, you are basically throwing in the towel. Your chances of getting laid that night lower significantly. A guy that has to resort to physical violence is overcompensating for his inability to CONTROL the situation. A man must always be in control of his emotions.

    From my experience, these guys will never actually take it to the point of physical assault since they know that if they fight, they are not getting laid that night. Basically they are just trying to intimidate you. Ultimately you want to stand your ground while maintaining your value. The longer you've been talking to the girl, the easier it is to deal with the hot headed obstacle since the girl will have a much higher investment in you. Determining the relationships between everyone in the group is essential to selecting the appropriate strategy for dealing with the a$$hole.

    If he's a good friend of hers, I will first try to win him over. I'll engage him in typical guy talk and see if I can establish some kind of rapport. Talk about sports, girls, make fun of other AFCs in the bar,...etc. If he continues to challenge me, I will ignore him and see if I can shut him out of the conversation. If he is still being difficult and I've been talking to the girl for a while, I might point out the fact that her friend is being a chode. Worst case scenario, I will say to the girl "Look, you seem cool but your friend is being a buzzkill. I'm going to get back to my friends, you should come find me later." Usually if you ran solid game she will come back later to apologize and you can proceed from there. If she just met the guy, dealing with him will be much easier. IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE and keep talking to the girl. Normally he'll quit and walk away.

    I've had guys yell at me, try to physically pull the girl away or ask me to fight them outside. I called their bluff and just stood my ground until the guys gave up. As long as you don't shove or argue with him, you'll be fine. If he lays a finger on you, he's going to get kicked out and his night is over.

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    Default Re: White Knights/Butthurt Moralfags

    I'll typically stand my ground in most situations. I don't know how it is where you guys are from but typically speaking, all the guys from Surrey come into White Rock(where I live)on Friday and Saturday nights because it's closer than Vancouver. The majority of these guys are Indian or Asian, and not that I have anything against them, they're notorious for starting conflicts over something that is no big deal. In my last field report I talked about a skull fracture that I got. That happened because a brown guy stepped on my friends shoe and we jokingly called him out on it. So needless to say I've had my excitement for the past month and am trying to avoid it :P
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    Default Re: White Knights/Butthurt Moralfags

    This thread is fascinating. When guys are trying to fight each other it always looks like a spectacle...not a good one...you handle this stuff well

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    Default Re: White Knights/Butthurt Moralfags

    I had a guy try to fight me once, but I had just kissed his girlfriend on the cheek. She didn't even say her bf was right there she just let me be flirty with her, so I sincerely apologized to the guy because I felt bad.

    The guy you described was just mad because he got friend zoned by all those girls cuz he's a b!tch, and you were making them all laugh and talk to you. These people are brainwashed by feminists to think women are precious little gems that you can't be fun or sexual with.

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    Default Re: White Knights/Butthurt Moralfags

    one of my books actually has a term for these type guys

    snags
    meaning: Sensitive, New, Age, Guy's

    these types of guys are best dealt with by simply ignoring them, they are almost always deep under cover in the friendzone. even if they get into a fight with you, usually the girl will sleep with you anyways.

    on occasion you might actually get in trouble with a boyfriend, but when that happens just tell him you didn't know and back off.

    no girl is worth getting arrested over.


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