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    Default Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each other

    There are many pickup artists. If you read their books or teachings, part of their teachings contradicts with each other,yet still work for them. Do you know why? For example, being direct or indirect when approaching a girl. One PUA(the 3% men) says that you ask girls many questions while in the meantime give her as little information as possible about you, so she will be anticipating because you are a mystery. While Juggler says that we should not ask many questions, we'd better use statements rather than questions.
    There are also many other parts during the entire process contradicts the teachings of others.
    How to Be a 3% Man, Winning the Heart of the Woman of Your Dreams says that you should give a girl as little information as possible so you will remain a mystery to her while Models: Attract Women Through Honesty says that you should be vulnerable, open you up, so she will open up to you, too, therefore you can build connection with her.

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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    Confidence & congruence.
    Having those two things will make a difference every time.



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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mal View Post
    Confidence & congruence.
    Having those two things will make a difference every time.

    How do you define "Confidence"?
    When you are with a girl, should you be confident or should you make her feel in comfort?
    Is there a possibility that you feel confident but she doesn't feel comfortable? Or you don't feel confident but she feels comfortable?

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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    Confident means YOU are comfortable yourself; WITH yourself, and AS yourself.

    And if you're comfortable, people around you are more likely to feel comfortable as well.

    Confidence means you're not worried about what's happening, & you're not over-thinking everything. You are in complete control of your interactions.


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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    To add to what T-Mal said, these methods don't actually contradict. If they are in direct contradiction, it's because they don't go to the heart of what building attraction requires.

    For instance, asking questions vs. making statements doesn't go to the heart of what you're doing. Juggler says to make statements because too many guys go into interrogation mode when they start asking questions. His solution is to tell guys to make statements instead of asking questions.
    "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."

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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    There are many pickup artists. If you read their books or teachings, part of their teachings contradicts with each other,yet still work for them. Do you know why? For example, being direct or indirect when approaching a girl. One PUA(the 3% men) says that you ask girls many questions while in the meantime give her as little information as possible about you, so she will be anticipating because you are a mystery. While Juggler says that we should not ask many questions, we'd better use statements rather than questions.
    There are also many other parts during the entire process contradicts the teachings of others.
    How to Be a 3% Man, Winning the Heart of the Woman of Your Dreams says that you should give a girl as little information as possible so you will remain a mystery to her while Models: Attract Women Through Honesty says that you should be vulnerable, open you up, so she will open up to you, too, therefore you can build connection with her.
    everyone has there own style. picking up woman can be performed in many ways. don't take just anyone's advice. figure out what will work for you and what won't.

    and to elaborate on t-mals point, I believe all methods have a few things in common.

    confidence and congruence (as t-mal said)
    (and I want to add a quote to that "confidence is not about acting confident, but rather its about confidently expressing your every emotion" - gambler)

    in addition to those, you also need:

    -a solid identity
    -at least an ok sense of humor
    -a genuine curiosity for other people

    these are important.

    pua is all about displaying your identity, (that's what you do when you dhv) and being comfortable with that identity. (if you remember your high school days, the kids who always got bullied the most were the ones who didn't have a solid identity.)

    an ok sense of humor is a necessity these days, especially if you want to get girls at clubs. no one is going to want to talk about boring stuff when you first meet them. humor makes women want to stick around long enough to hear the boring stuff.

    and if you're a serious person, don't worry. humor is learned. that's right, you can learn how to be funny or even copy other peoples humor if you feel like your lacking in that department.

    a genuine interest in people will get you far in life. you will make more friends by taking interest in them than you will by trying to get them interested in you. not to mention that people are more likely to want to talk about themselves rather than talk about you. that's why I always try to get the girl to do most of the talking. works charms

    btw
    the best method for getting women is no method at all. if you find yourself having lots of success, with no explainable reason, that's when you know you're doing it right.

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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    Because no method works 100% and each PUA teaches what works best for him.

    If there was a method that could get anyone laid 100%,it would probably be illegal.

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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    If there was a method that could get anyone laid 100%,it would probably be illegal.
    not to mention that no-one would share it or if they did, it would be worth millions.

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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    "the best method for getting women is no method at all. if you find yourself having lots of success, with no explainable reason, that's when you know you're doing it right."

    love this.

    It all comes back to being congruent with who you are, and confident.

    Confidence+congruenc e+kino escalation+humor. All you need to know to attract anybody.

    Seriously, once you internalize all these concepts and are naturally just yourself, that's when your game will reach its peak.

    Because you're being yourself, and not even thinking but saying the perfect things. That's when you become a natural and get awesome with girls.

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    Default Re: Why do different methods work although they may contradict with each ot

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    everyone has there own style. picking up woman can be performed in many ways. don't take just anyone's advice. figure out what will work for you and what won't.

    and to elaborate on t-mals point, I believe all methods have a few things in common.

    confidence and congruence (as t-mal said)
    (and I want to add a quote to that "confidence is not about acting confident, but rather its about confidently expressing your every emotion" - gambler)

    in addition to those, you also need:

    -a solid identity
    -at least an ok sense of humor
    -a genuine curiosity for other people

    these are important.

    pua is all about displaying your identity, (that's what you do when you dhv) and being comfortable with that identity. (if you remember your high school days, the kids who always got bullied the most were the ones who didn't have a solid identity.)

    an ok sense of humor is a necessity these days, especially if you want to get girls at clubs. no one is going to want to talk about boring stuff when you first meet them. humor makes women want to stick around long enough to hear the boring stuff.

    and if you're a serious person, don't worry. humor is learned. that's right, you can learn how to be funny or even copy other peoples humor if you feel like your lacking in that department.

    a genuine interest in people will get you far in life. you will make more friends by taking interest in them than you will by trying to get them interested in you. not to mention that people are more likely to want to talk about themselves rather than talk about you. that's why I always try to get the girl to do most of the talking. works charms

    btw
    the best method for getting women is no method at all. if you find yourself having lots of success, with no explainable reason, that's when you know you're doing it right.
    How do you get the girl to do most of the talking? By asking open-ended questions?


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