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    Hi guys,
    As I said before I am just back to the game so please correct and help me with this case.

    I was walking back home his afternoon when I saw a chick who was walking in front of me and was twisting her fingers all the time! I thought it could make a good indirect opener so I approached and said "Hey I saw you keep twisting your fingers. Not only your fingers are very elastic but I also think only emotional people do it!" ( I made up this sheit!). At first she was a bit resistant but then she opened up and told me that she was German and that she was from blah blah and she had PhD in something! I created a good banter with her and then number closed her and said bye. Since I had not done any text game for months I was not sure what to do so I decided that since she was a kind of academic/clever girl I better text her differently. Here is the stream, so please tell me what was good and what was not (please pay attention that she did not ask me any question until my 2nd last message!):

    Me: Hey clever Sue, It was nice meeting you this afternoon. How do you say "Good Evening" in German? [8:23pm]

    HB: Guten Abden [8:35pm]

    Me: Then "Guten Abden Ame" to you! Is it hard to learn German? [8:47pm]

    HB: :-D Guten Abden to you too. Well, it's closely related to English so the vocab is relatively easy bu the grammar is a bitch. (from here me and her sent messages every 5 minutes).

    ME: (Trying to DHV). When my German friends speak German it sounds like music to my ears. Wish I could add German to my collection of languages. I can say few words like "Ich Heisse <my name>".

    HB: That's pretty good. Most people only know swear words :-D

    Me: Really? I thought swear words belong to the advanced level ;-) How many languages do you speak?

    HB: Oh No! Swear words are the first think people ask for. I speak English,French,Germa n and Spanish.

    Me: Pretty good and quite different to the languages I speak. By the way I am making a yummy chicken salad. If you teach me some German can I pay by salad? ;-)

    HB: Which languages do you speak? Sounds like a good deal to me.

    Me: Persian, Turkish, Arabic, Russian and English. You are lucky because my Italian foods are popular. Can you cook?

    HB: Yes, enough to survive and not poison anyone I am more of a baking queen.

    Me: Feel free to use me to test your new products! I am off to bed, have a good night!

    ( I said goodbye because A- I thought I had texted too much, B-I felt she was getting bored/tired C- To break the rapport).

    As you see she is very rigid and so I could not push the convo to a personal/flirty level much. Sounds like she takes a bit of effort to open up properly.

    My questions are:

    1- Any advice? Where was good and where was nit?
    2- When I was number closing her we were in front of a wine bar and I said "give me your number, maybe we can pop into this wine bar sometime and have a drink". I am thinking of asking her to meet me there on Friday night. Is it OK or is it too soon?
    3- How can I make my intention clear and avoid landing in her friend zone?

    Cheers guys

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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    This text interaction was actually good. You were leading the interaction & making it fun. She was responding enthusiastically as well as qualifying herself at times.

    I would recommend to start being a little more flirty now. You're not in danger of the friend zone yet, so don't let yourself wander there.

    Mention something like "You know, when I eat cookies, they make me feel like cuddling & kissing... how good a baker did you say you are? "

    or

    "Heya baking queen, if you were to make me a pie with the intention of REALLY impressing me, what would you make?"

    or after a couple messages ask her something like this:

    "OK, so what's your 'love potion' of the baking world? Like, what do you make that's sooooo good, people almost fall in love with you? "

    You get the idea...

    Messages like that will drop hints that you're interested in being more than just friends, but without creeping her out.




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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    Very good thank you I tried doing this with another German girl 7-8 months ago but I got blown out. I am not sure if they are different or I was just unlucky! Sounds like they (or at least their educated bunch) enjoy a more serious/intelligent convo. What do you think?

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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    I'm not sure if it would be something directly correlated with German girls or not... I've never really chatted with one.

    But I DO know that the smarter, more intelligent girls are more fun! And they also respond very well to intellectual humor & sexual innuendo.



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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    Thanks so much T-Mal. I have three quick questions. 1- I cut the convo and said I was going to bed and she did not reply afterwards. was it good, ok or bad? 2- What is the best way to text her again. This evening? (after 24 hours), morning, afternoon? 3- When is the best time to ask her out? this time that I chat to her? or do I have to do it based on some IOIs?

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    Usually a girl will say "goodnight" but that doesn't necessarily mean anything bad.
    Text her in the morning after you wake up. Start out fresh with a totally new topic... it's a new day, so new texts too.

    If she's unresponsive again, then she may not be interested yet & you're definitely gonna have to work on building more attraction.
    You also want to make sure you've built attraction before you ask her out; otherwise you're more likely to face resistance.

    When she is replying consistently & her texts are energetic, then THAT is a good time to go for the meet up.
    If she's having fun via TEXT, she'll be looking forward to having fun IN PERSON.


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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    Thanks heaps T-Mal for your help. I followed your suggestions and managed to get a date for Saturday evening. When I secured the date it was Wednesday evening, which means there will be almost 3 days gap until the date. Should I stop texting her until then or should I keep texting her? If the answer is positive, with what interval and what subjects etc?

    Please bear with me, I am trying to learn
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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    I personally never go silent on a girl when things are "heating up" so to speak.

    I use the days until our meet up to ramp up the flirting & increase escalation... that keeps her interested. By stopping communication, you run the risk of her going cold on you & backing out.

    So now that you have a date scheduled, keep building more attraction & comfort. Keep her "hot" & looking forward to it.



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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    Hello T-Mal again,

    I have questions again! I texted the chick I mentioned above and set a date for today 6pm and then I asked her "what do you look for in a man?"... and she said "honesty..how about you?"... I said "I find smart girls attractive" then she said "interesting". Then suddenly she stopped texting me. 2 days later I texted her "I look forward to meeting you tomorrow, and I am sure you do too!", again no reply!
    Then today 1 hour before the date, she flaked and texted me that "I cannot make it today, we should reschedule?". And since I have a "No Reschedule" policy I said "I don't reschedule with flaky women. good luck".

    So my first question is that: When women flake and then they mention that they want to reschedule, should I reschedule?!

    Then I approached a beautiful French girl who was a nanny and she gave me her number happily. Since she looked interested I just sent her a simple text which was "Hey Helene, it was lovely meeting you today. How many kids do you take care of?". In 2 mins she replied "Hi, I was happy to meet you too If you want to see me again for a coffee next week it would be good. I look after two monsters (3 and 5)". Then I said "LOL it's funny that you call them monsters. I work till 6pm during the week, so would 7pm suit you?". And ever since I got nor response again... totally silent!

    My second question is that: What I am doing wrong in my texting?!! I don't think suggesting a 7pm date is a bad thing. Why girls stop responding?!

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    Default Re: Guidance with this case

    Oh wow. Where to begin. I can't really judge as well about the second girl, but the first girl was really into you.

    So much so that you were a little cocky at the end and it turned her off. She obviously already liked you so it was kind of like you were making fun of her about it. International exchanges are always a lot more straight forward than American or British customs. It makes it a lot harder to use cocky funny and such but it also makes it completely unneccessary.

    I've been doing a lot of research on text game so I"ll share a few tips that helped me. In the streams of texts you sent I can tell that the girl really likes you a ridiculous amount because you're not sending texts she has to respond to.

    That's the first rule you want to adhere to: always give her something to respond to. The most obvious way is to ask a question, which I saw you do a few times, but you want to ask questions that can't end up in a single word response. If you ask open-ended questions then she'll give a longer response. You always want her texts to be longer than yours.

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