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Thread: Girls getting bored in DHV storytime?

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    Default Girls getting bored in DHV storytime?

    FYI: I'm a newbie, trying to learn the ropes here.

    I was at a party last night, and I opened about 10-15 sets no problem, (thank god that part is now easy.)

    But when I stacked into a neg (for 9s and 10s only) and then into a DHV story that had the MM attraction switches in it, I kept seeing the girl give me IODs. She was looking away, turning her body, looking at her friends. Some of the girls just walked away while I was speaking.
    In one example I got through the story and tried to lock-in, but as soon as I did, she walked away.

    Does this mean my delivery is not on point?
    What else could this mean?

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    Default Re: Girls getting bored in DHV storytime?

    It could be when you give the story and how long. What you are trying to run right now is a set, and sets are only meant to be ran when she stops giving value to you or it seems like the conversation is heading to a low. Another reason would be that your story is too long, too boring, or too gloaty. I would look over your story and make sure that it is interesting, fun, and gets across the message appropriately. It should be like a skirt: short enough to be interesting, but long enough to be appropriate.
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    Default Re: Girls getting bored in DHV storytime?

    Your stories probably sound rehearsed, fake, or gloaty... or maybe they're just boring. You don't even need DHV stories. All you really need are funny stories that show interesting and/or crazy things occur in your life. They certainly don't have to be real, mine aren't, but maybe when you tell them you don't tell it genuinely

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    Default Re: Girls getting bored in DHV storytime?

    You definitely need some skills to game a whole group and tell stories to them efficiently. Maybe you still need to integrate your stories to your game if you need canned one (no problem with that of course). Or maybe you didn't build enough comfort so that they bear your presence and talk. Or your body language. It can be a thousand things but don't worry, keep practising, you will get better and better that's for sure.
    If I were you, I'd ask my wing to watch me approaching and telling stories, maybe he can tell you if your body language isn't fine or something like that.

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    Default Re: Girls getting bored in DHV storytime?

    The DHV stories should flow naturally into the conversation that you're having.

    Any DHV story you want to tell an HB should hold her attention and if there is some humor in it that's a huge bonus.

    I practiced my DHV stories on females that I regularly run into. This is my office staff, females cousins, and female friends. Some I also ran on my guy buds. If I get a laugh and a positive vibe then I run them when I am gaming.

    Guys here will tell you not to memorize the material but when it comes to some stuff like DHV stories I truly believe in P.D.R. Practice, Drill and Rehearse. Do this by recording yourself and practicing in front of a mirror.

    Check your hand gestures, facial expressions, body language and listen to the recorded delivery so it doesn't sound canned. Change the inflection of your voice, change the delivery of the story with pausing at some points and then speeding up at other points.This is what comedians do and people who deliver great speeches do.

    Ever wonder why when you tell the same joke as a comedian and why you don't get the same laughs as they do?

    It's the delivery of the joke and they have practiced, changed and delivered it a 100 times or more to perfect it. So why do you expect your DHV story that you've told 5 times to be able to have the same effect?

    I was an extremely shy kid in high school and now I can be anywhere and socialize with ease, with humor, be able to hold a conversation and yes, I practiced hard by recording myself to make positive changes.

    Example:

    On Saturday (yesterday) at a fitness class that starts the warmup on bikes and then moves to a circuit. An HB that I met ( basically said hello) the previous week at the same class. Yesterday when she came in before the class started I was already on the bike. As she walked in she said, "hello".

    I replied, " Hey, how's your Saturday so far? I saved you the broken bike" ( I said it with a smile and the bike wasn't broken at all). She said, "Thanks, that's great for saving me a broken bike" ( as she laughed.)

    Then I replied, " Hey, what are GOOD friends for" (Again with a smile)

    Now, about 5 or 6 HBs in the class laughed as I made the comment and so did my target. She laughed hysterically. I was busting her in an ALPHA way.

    I set the whole thing up by planning about 80% of it and improvising by 20% of it.

    After class I chatted with 3 girls plus the HB who told me their Saturday night plans and then asking me what I was doing. I could tell they were hoping I would show up where they were going.

    The thing is that I said the broken bike line and her anticipated response about 80 times to myself in the mirror during the week. I said it slowly, I said it fast, I said it loud, I said it softly, i mixed it up until I listened to a version that I recorded and it sounded very natural with a fun, flirty delivery. Then I practiced that version about 20 times of the 80 total times. Bottom line is that I was prepared for everything.

    I have routines, not so much routines but lines I use to open a girl and then questions to lead the conversation, for when I am waiting in line at a club, at a coffee shop, the food court, the gym or filling my car up with gas (petrol for my Euro buds here). These are common every day situations where you can use the same material over and over again to open and close girls.

    Bottom line is that you have to practice, practice, practice before you get it right and you get COMFORTABLE with it. Once you do then it's awesome.

    Those DHV stories will get you what you want but before you get there you'll need to put in some effort into getting them right.

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    Default Re: Girls getting bored in DHV storytime?

    Thanks for all the advice.

    It should be like a skirt: short enough to be interesting, but long enough to be appropriate.
    Throughout the course of the night, I tried abbreviating the story and got no change in effect, so I don't think it has to necessarily do with length.
    If I were you, I'd ask my wing to watch me approaching and telling stories, maybe he can tell you if your body language isn't fine or something like that.
    The thing is, all my friends don't know about this, and they're the type of people that would laugh if I brought something like this up.
    They mostly are all somewhat-naturals similar to me before my discovery of this community in that they could only attract women in a social setting and over a long period of time.

    Bottom line is that you have to practice, practice, practice before you get it right and you get COMFORTABLE with it. Once you do then it's awesome.
    Totally right, next time I should be better off.

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    Default Re: Girls getting bored in DHV storytime?

    Dave has some great points!

    Personally I don't memorize ANY stories. If I'm talking to a woman and she mentions something I go into a story from my own life. I've had some crazy things happen that make for great stories. Heck some of my "DHV" stories I don't even remember until its triggered from a conversation then BOOM story time. This way its TOTALLY genuine. I don't tell fake stories.

    I'm a natural story teller and REALLY good at public speaking. I always suck people in with my stories. You can tell when your delivery is on point by the look on their faces. When you're doing a good job they will have this super interested look and they will be paying attention to nothing else. They will be waiting on every word.

    The most likely scenario is that your delivery if off. Honestly, if you know how to tell a story well, you can make almost ANYTHING interesting. If I could see you telling a story I could tell you EXACTLY what you were doing wrong. Voice tone, inflection, speed and pauses are crucial. When you get to the punch line, pause for a second or two. It builds anticipation and they try to guess what you are going to say in their mind. When you say something totally unexpected it makes them feel many emotions and is the key to a good story.

    Something else I do that MANY people have complemented me on is my use of sound effects and body language. When I tell a story I act out certain parts with my hands, body, and facial expressions. I don't even realize it but people REALLY get a kick out of it.

    Example: If I'm telling a story about calling in a flock of ducks. When I talk about the ACTUAL calling I put my hand to my mouth like I'm holding a duck call and make duck sounds with my mouth. Then when I explain how the ducks were coming in I put my arms out like a cupped up duck and slowly move my upper body back and forth like a duck coming into the decoy spread. Then when I talk about standing up to shoot I put my arms up like I'm shouldering a shotgun and actually say "boom boom boom".

    Another thing is to use your face and express the emotions on your face that your explaining in the story. If it's at a point where your excited look and sound excited. If your shocked at that point in the story looked shocked on your face.

    If you work on these things you can tell a story about anything and make it interesting. ANYTHING!


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